Michael Malice - Is Anarchy The Answer? | Modern Wisdom Podcast 329

Michael Malice - Is Anarchy The Answer? | Modern Wisdom Podcast 329

Modern WisdomJun 3, 20211h 25m

Michael Malice (guest), Chris Williamson (host), Narrator

Definition and varieties of anarchism and the thesis of *The Anarchist Handbook*Why Malice refuses to vote and his critique of democracy and representationHow law, dispute resolution, and defense might function in an anarchist societyEthical and practical weak points of anarchism (children, violent crime, war)Self‑publishing, the creator economy, and bypassing traditional media/gatekeepersMedia manipulation, COVID origin censorship, and collapsing trust in institutionsRealignment of left‑wing parties with the working class in the US and UK

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Michael Malice and Chris Williamson, Michael Malice - Is Anarchy The Answer? | Modern Wisdom Podcast 329 explores michael Malice Argues Anarchism Beats Democracy, One Essay At A Time Michael Malice joins Chris Williamson to discuss his self‑published hit, *The Anarchist Handbook*, using it as a springboard to explain what anarchism is and why he rejects representative democracy and voting. He frames anarchism as the principle, “You do not speak for me,” and argues that governance, law, and even conflict resolution can be handled more efficiently through voluntary, competitive systems rather than states. The conversation ranges from legal theory and child protection under anarchy to media censorship, COVID narrative reversals, and the growing distrust between working classes and political/media elites. They also explore the creator economy, self‑publishing, and how new platforms let individuals bypass traditional gatekeepers in both politics and publishing.

Michael Malice Argues Anarchism Beats Democracy, One Essay At A Time

Michael Malice joins Chris Williamson to discuss his self‑published hit, *The Anarchist Handbook*, using it as a springboard to explain what anarchism is and why he rejects representative democracy and voting. He frames anarchism as the principle, “You do not speak for me,” and argues that governance, law, and even conflict resolution can be handled more efficiently through voluntary, competitive systems rather than states. The conversation ranges from legal theory and child protection under anarchy to media censorship, COVID narrative reversals, and the growing distrust between working classes and political/media elites. They also explore the creator economy, self‑publishing, and how new platforms let individuals bypass traditional gatekeepers in both politics and publishing.

Key Takeaways

Anarchism centers on consent and representation, not chaos.

Malice defines anarchism as the assertion that no one speaks for you without your consent, and that political ‘citizenship’ should be based on voluntary ideological affiliation rather than geography.

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Refusing to vote is, for Malice, a way to avoid complicity.

He argues that casting a ballot is akin to hiring a representative; if they inevitably break promises, you endorsed them and lose the moral right to complain, whereas your time can tangibly help others in more direct ways than voting.

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Law and order can be privatized and plural without utopian promises.

Using analogies like eBay dispute resolution and private arbitration, Malice claims legal systems can be competitive, contract‑based, and specialized, delivering faster, cheaper resolutions without pretending law is ever truly ‘objective’ or uniform.

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Anarchism has serious unresolved edge cases—especially children.

Malice openly concedes that protecting children from abusive parents in a stateless system is a hard problem he cannot satisfactorily solve, stressing that current state systems are also deeply flawed rather than presenting anarchism as utopia.

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Decentralized media and self‑publishing dramatically shift power from institutions to individuals.

His Amazon bestseller, produced in 3. ...

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Institutional flip‑flops, like on COVID’s lab‑leak theory, erode legitimacy.

Malice and Williamson argue that platforms banning lab‑leak discussion and later relaxing those bans reveal how arbitrary and political ‘fact‑checking’ can be, pushing people to distrust governments and corporate media and seek alternative channels.

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Working‑class voters are increasingly alienated from left parties and media.

They discuss how UK Labour and US Democrats often appear to despise or condescend to the working class while chasing university‑educated elites, unintentionally radicalizing people who feel mocked and ignored by both politicians and journalists.

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Notable Quotes

“The best definition of anarchy? You do not speak for me.”

Michael Malice

“Voting is a ritual that validates those who slaughter hundreds of thousands of people in the name of patriotism.”

Michael Malice

“If your system results that I go into the store and I can only buy Pepsi Cola or Coca-Cola, or Coca-Cola and strychnine, something needs to change on a fundamental level.”

Michael Malice

“If you know someone is awesome, that could be you. The only thing stopping you is $30 and an hour of your time.”

Michael Malice

“How many times do you need to be hit over the head with a stick before you realize these people do not have your best interests at heart?”

Paraphrased by Chris Williamson from Malice’s earlier arguments

Questions Answered in This Episode

If objective, uniform law is impossible, how much legal fragmentation and competition can a society realistically tolerate before it becomes unworkable or unjust?

Michael Malice joins Chris Williamson to discuss his self‑published hit, *The Anarchist Handbook*, using it as a springboard to explain what anarchism is and why he rejects representative democracy and voting. ...

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Is refusing to vote an effective moral stance, or does it simply cede power to those less scrupulous who are willing to play the game?

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How could a stateless system robustly protect children and other dependents from abusive guardians without recreating something like a state?

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At what point does distrust of institutions become more dangerous than the institutions’ own incompetence or malfeasance, and how should individuals navigate that balance?

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What responsibilities do modern creators and influencers have when they gain the power to ‘platform’ forgotten ideas and people—especially those with radical or controversial views?

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Transcript Preview

Michael Malice

I don't want your crappy system. If your system results that I go into the store and I can only buy Pepsi Cola or Coca-Cola or Coca-Cola and strychnine, something needs to change on a fundamental level. There's no reason to be represented by someone you dislike or despise or disagree with, and it's not reasonable for you to expect me to buy into your chicanery. (wind blowing)

Chris Williamson

Michael Malice, welcome to the show.

Michael Malice

Thank you, sir.

Chris Williamson

(laughs) How are you, dude?

Michael Malice

I'm phenomenally, doing phenomenally well.

Chris Williamson

Yeah, me too, me too. This has been a very good week, I think, for both of us.

Michael Malice

Oh, okay. We're talking about you now? Okay.

Chris Williamson

(laughing)

Michael Malice

I see how it is. (laughs)

Chris Williamson

Where are you in the Amazon charts now? I know you've been crushing it recently.

Michael Malice

I think I'm at 30 ... I'm only 39. How embarrassing.

Chris Williamson

I know. Sucks-

Michael Malice

Of all books. Let's check right now. Let's look.

Chris Williamson

Let's have a little look. Yeah, exactly.

Michael Malice

Let's l- let's, let's check it out.

Chris Williamson

Mm-hmm.

Michael Malice

Like Steve Brule says. So we're going here, um, and we are at ... Let's look at view on Amazon. It is s- doo, doo, doo, doo ... 37. Ugh. The shame.

Chris Williamson

I know. Down with the plebs.

Michael Malice

The shame. The shame. I feel, I feel so embarrassed. Yeah.

Chris Williamson

Well, I love the idea of having an Amazon link which is essentially a one word or a one URL answer to a question that you always get asked about anarchy.

Michael Malice

Y- Well, I get asked a lot, and this is what the, the whole point of The Anarchist Handbook was so people could stop bothering me-

Chris Williamson

(laughs)

Michael Malice

... and, and read, read for themselves. No, you know, what, uh, what happened was when I first started doing this sort of thing, being a media personality, for lack of a better term, I, my, I, uh, I always had a strategy. And my strategy was, um, say something interesting or say something uninteresting in an interesting way, because there's no shortage of these people who go on these shows, and you know exactly what they're gonna say. It's gonna be Republican talking points, Democratic talking points, you know, c- Tory talking points, Labour talking points, unless it's Diane Abbott. Then you definitely want to watch it, 'cause that's the b- the best. Um, and at a certain point, you know, my platform increased, and I keep talking about anarchism and people kept asking me, and I'm like, "I don't wanna explain all this. Just do the homework. Leave me alone." And at a certain point, I'm like, "Oh, people do care what I think." And I'm like, "Well, this is all the answers that they want to know about histor-" There's a, you know, it's a collection of historical essays from all the prominent anarchists of the past. Well, I don't want to say all, but, uh, the vast majority of them, so.

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