Bill Gates x Nikhil Kamath Part 2 | People by WTF | Ep.8

[upbeat music] If I were to ask you to extrapolate, in the world of tomorrow, ten years from now, from a very capitalistic lens, is a huge population a boon or a bane? Hmm. [upbeat music] Can you sleep, Bill, if you drink coffee so late at night?

It might delay my going to sleep a little bit-

Yeah.

-but it'll keep me energized, so, uh... I have a long flight, so I get, uh, the sleep is always complicated.

You're always in a hurry when you're in India. It's so much nicer to spend time with you when you're not in India. Why is that?

Um, well, I'll organize some of my trips where I take time off here. Uh, you know, next year we're talking about, that I'll go up to Assam, and they tell me that's pretty nice. So hopefully-

Mm

... I'll schedule a couple days, uh, for just pure relaxation. Uh, but when I'm working, you know, it's, it's great to see there's so many new innovators here. Uh, we did manage to pack the schedule. You know, there's a lot of ministries that we have partnerships with.

Yeah.

I think I saw more ministers this time [chuckles] than ever before, but it was... They were all great meetings.

Right.

It's been a fun trip. We did a thing with Sachin, I guess-

Yeah

... it's your production company or something-

Yeah

... that helped-

Yeah

... put together a very creative, uh-

So you played cricket. First time?

Well, we, we were on a tennis court-

Ah

... and so we were hitting balls with a cricket bat and the tennis. We were kind of making fun of the-

Mm

... the, the two different sports. Uh-

Yeah.

So that, that, that was relaxing.

Yeah. So we met recently in Switzerland, and I asked you many things off camera. Uh, so I spent the last week reading Source Code.

Oh, thanks!

Yeah. It took me a long time. I read much slower than you, I presume.

[chuckles]

It took me fourteen, fifteen hours, so my time in the car, on my flight, in all my travel, and before going to bed, has been Source Code, so I know more about you now than I have ever.

Fantastic.

[chuckles] So a lot of what is in the book, Bill... It's a great book. I, I would recommend everybody read it, but a lot of what is in the book is also something I might expect of Bill Gates. Like, my childhood was very different in the sense that when you used to sneak out of home when your parents went to bed, you went to a computer lab to work.

[chuckles]

Right?

Yes. That was... I, I was very lucky I got to use computers a lot, even in high school.

So what isn't in the book, Bill?

You know, the book, I, I feel like I, you know, was pretty frank about, uh, you know, the challenges my parents felt raising me, and, uh, you know, how, uh, my- originally I was not a very good student. You know, at least I wasn't getting good grades, and then I eventually... It bugged me that people thought maybe I wasn't that smart, so I just said, "Okay, I guess I should get good grades." Uh, you know, I got in trouble at Harvard, uh, when I was doing, first using the computer, and-