Ep #22 | WTF are Craft Beverages? Nikhil ft. the Founders of Blue Tokai, Subko, Svami, and Mossant

In India, cafés are food businesses as much as coffee businesses.

Both Blue Tokai and Subko cite ~50/50 revenue splits between food and beverages, meaning menu design and operational consistency matter as much as roast quality for unit economics.

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Differentiation is shifting from “better coffee” to culture, identity, and experience.

Subko argues that as coffee culture matures, good coffee becomes the minimum; brands win via subcultural hooks (vinyl, events), design language, and unique beverage formats (coffee “speakeasy” cocktails).

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A hot kitchen can raise average checks, but talent/consistency become the real bottleneck.

Blue Tokai notes hot kitchens can increase APC, yet retaining strong kitchen staff and maintaining consistency is hard—hence central kitchens + make-lines are often preferred.

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India’s coffee market is still shallow relative to demand—especially outside metros.

Matt estimates ~5,000 branded coffee shops (plus a similar number unbranded), implying a large whitespace, particularly in Tier-2 cities where options are fewer and the category is underpenetrated.

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Opening beside incumbents can help—coffee clusters can expand total demand.

Blue Tokai observes that when multiple cafés open near each other, the area can become a destination and all players may benefit (unlike restaurants where queues concentrate demand).

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Kombucha’s main challenge is education + regulation, not raw materials.

Mossant describes kombucha as fermented sweetened tea; the yeast produces alcohol and acids, bacteria consume alcohol—yet India requires <0. ...

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Kombucha in India is small but growing fast—and extremely price elastic.

They peg India’s kombucha market at ~₹200 crore; Mossant saw ~6× volume lift when price dropped from ₹130 to ₹99, signaling mass adoption depends on accessibility and distribution.

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Quick commerce is a growth accelerant but can become a dependency trap.

Mossant gets ~60% business via quick commerce, but founders warn platforms can demand high commissions (even cited up to 50%), own discovery, squeeze smaller brands, and eventually white-label successful products.

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India’s beverage tax structure discourages innovation in ‘better-for-you’ carbonates.

Svami highlights ~40% tax on beverages that are both sweet and carbonated; removing carbonation or sweetness drops the tax, creating perverse incentives versus a sugar-slab model like the UK’s.

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Craft moats are built by brand pull in offline channels, especially HoReCa.

Svami’s early growth came from restaurant tastings vs Schweppes and being positioned as an ‘upgrade’ option; long-term strength is when consumers ask for the brand by name at bars/restaurants.

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For a new café, a 1,000 sq ft footprint is often optimal.

Blue Tokai suggests ~1,000 sq ft balances CapEx/rent with enough seating to avoid ‘full = lost customer’ dynamics; above ~2,000 sq ft fit-out costs and rent rise faster than revenue.

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Coffee commodity spikes barely move café cup economics but hit packaged/RTD margins.

Matt claims coffee at 50-year highs adds only ~₹2–3 per cup in cafés, but Rahul notes retail beans and RTD formats suffer materially because ingredient cost is a larger share of COGS.

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Performance marketing is not viewed as essential for durable craft brands.

Subko claims zero performance spend in five years; Svami calls most performance agencies commoditized. ...

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