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OpenAI Restructuring: Who Wins and Who Loses & Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation

Jason Lemkin is one of the leading SaaS investors of the last decade with a portfolio including the likes of Algolia, Talkdesk, Owner, RevenueCat, Saleloft and more. Rory O’Driscoll is a General Partner @ Scale where he has led investments in category leaders such as Bill.com (BILL), Box (BOX), DocuSign (DOCU), and WalkMe (WKME), among others. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:16 OpenAI's Restructuring: Winners and Losers 16:12 Andreessen Horowitz's Raise $10BN in New Funds 26:22 Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation 44:51 Spray and Pray: Does it Work: Data Breakdown 49:52 The Role of Option Checks Venture Capital 01:08:03 Amazon's Struggles: How Do They Return to Greatness in AI 01:11:54 Why IRR is a BS Metric and What Matters More ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZ... Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://x.com/harrystebbings Follow Jason Lemkin on X: https://x.com/jasonlk Follow Rory O’Driscoll on X: https://x.com/rodriscoll Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/con... ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #roryodriscoll #jasonlemkin #openai #ai #vc #a16z #mercor

Jason LemkinguestRory O’DriscollguestHarry Stebbingshost
Oct 30, 20251h 26mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

OpenAI’s new structure, mega-fund dynamics, and AI-era venture bets

  1. OpenAI’s revised structure (including Microsoft’s economics and a nonprofit-controlled charitable foundation) removes prior constraints and makes an IPO and massive capital raises more feasible.
  2. The hosts argue that OpenAI’s restructuring created clear winners—Microsoft, employees, the nonprofit foundation, and investors—while the main “losers” are ideological opponents and Elon Musk’s legal posture.
  3. Andreessen Horowitz’s $10B raise is framed as part of the “mega-platform” venture model, where bundling, media/brand, option-like early checks, and resources can tilt deal access and pricing power.
  4. Mercor’s rapid rise to ~$500M in “real” revenue is explained as an RLHF/talent-and-data infrastructure play riding AI CapEx hypergrowth, but with real risks from customer concentration and margin structure.
  5. Data on 2018 Series B outcomes suggests venture returns depend on capturing a minority of big winners; the debate centers on when “spray and pray” works versus when disciplined picking or optioning is required.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

OpenAI’s restructuring is primarily about unlockable capital access.

Moving from a messy, donation-like hybrid to a workable for‑profit/PBC under a large nonprofit umbrella reduces structural friction and makes raising (even $100B+) and a future IPO far more practical.

Microsoft appears to have negotiated an exceptional risk-adjusted deal.

They reportedly end up with ~27% economics plus ongoing rights/contractual benefits (cloud, IP/rev share elements), reflecting early risk-taking when few would fund OpenAI at scale.

The nonprofit foundation is a major, underappreciated winner.

The conversation frames the result as effectively creating one of the world’s best-capitalized charitable foundations (~$135B), channeling some value away from private capture—at least in theory.

Sam Altman having no equity is strategically unusual and consequential.

They highlight it as unprecedented at this scale, potentially increasing perceived mission credibility while raising questions about incentives, control, and future governance dynamics.

Mega-funds win partly by converting early rounds into “options” on later rounds.

Large platforms can pay higher early prices (option value logic) if the true goal is owning/leading later rounds, which can disadvantage smaller funds that must make money on initial entry price.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The craziest thing in this deal, 'cause it's unprecedented, I think, in our lifetimes, is OpenAI said that Sam Altman will still have no shares, no shares in the combined entity.

Jason Lemkin

We've ended up funding a wonderful $135 billion charitable foundation.

Rory O’Driscoll

Andreessen Horowitz is the Red Army of the venture industry now. They got the 10 billion and they're gonna march it forward, right?

Rory O’Driscoll

You know, five years ago, as Jason said, I love the expression, five years ago, we were labeling cats, right?

Rory O’Driscoll

It's a horrible and unfair outcome for which the government and Lina Khan and the FTC is entirely responsible based on an outdated, stupid and foolish paper.

Rory O’Driscoll

OpenAI corporate restructuring and PBC modelMicrosoft’s stake, rights, and leverage in OpenAINonprofit foundation capitalization and governance implicationsIPO feasibility and retail-investor euphoria dynamicsa16z mega-fund strategy, bundling, and “wall of news”Mercor, RLHF labor markets, and AI CapEx dependencySpray-and-pray vs picking vs option-check venture modelsLate-stage private companies as “public stocks hiding in private”M&A/antitrust friction (iRobot/Amazon) and deal durationFounder psychology: selling vs IPO stress and “public company weight”

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