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Rob Lacher: How I Scaled to $600M AUM; Hiring Tips for VCs; Venture Capital in Europe vs USA | E999

Rob Lacher founded Visionaries Club in 2019, in just 3 years he has scaled the firm to $600M AUM and backed some of Europe’s best including Xentral, Personio, Miro, and Ledgy. Prior to Visionaries, Rob founded the fashion platform AMAZE in 2014 which he sold to Zalando, and founded the European seed and growth stage venture capital fund La Famiglia in 2016. --------------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:44 Who is Rob Lacher? 4:53 VC Hiring Tips 15:09 How to Pick Deals 24:09 Reserves Management 38:14 Do VCs add value? 41:41 Selling Secondary 43:21 Rob’s Relationship to Money 44:22 Rob’s Biggest Mistake 48:50 Venture in USA vs Europe 57:17 Rob’s Dream for the Future of VC 59:25 Quick-Fire Round ----------------------------------------- In Today’s Episode with Rob Lacher We Discuss: 1.) From Novice Tennis Player to Leading European Investor: When Rob realized beating Federer wasn’t an option, how did he make his way into the world of venture capital? When did Rob know he wanted to be a VC? What did Rob learn about himself after leaving La Famiglia? What characteristics make business partners compatible? 2.) The Secret to Building a Fund? Hire People With No Experience: What does Rob think is the hardest element of building a firm? What advice would Rob give to emerging managers when starting their firms? What is the single biggest mistake that Rob sees fund managers make? Why does Rob prefer to hire people with no VC experience? 3.) The Red Ocean of European Venture: Does Rob think the Series A product in Europe is any good? How would Rob advise founders debating a US multi-stage fund or a European offer? If Rob could choose one European board member, who would it be and why? In Rob’s dream, what would the Europe venture ecosystem look like in 2028? How does Rob think Europe’s family institutions can become Europe’s Google? 4.) Lessons on Investing From a Pro: Where does Rob think VCs, founders, and boards are misaligned? When Rob invests, how central of a role does price actually pay? What is Rob’s single biggest investing mistake? How did it impact his mindset and approach? What are the three ways reserve management strategy has changed? What does Rob absolutely hate about VC? ---------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vc_reels Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ---------------------------------------------------- #RobLacher #LaFamiglia #HarryStebbings #venturecapital

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Apr 7, 20231h 10mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:28

    Europe’s “missing Google” and the case for family businesses as a tech engine (teaser)

    Rob opens with a provocative take on Europe’s tech gap: the continent lacks mega-platform winners, but it does have a powerful alternative—highly profitable, fast-moving family businesses. He frames these firms as Europe’s hidden advantage for B2B innovation and long-term risk-taking.

    • Europe lacks mega-platform tech giants but has a large base of profitable family businesses
    • Family businesses: long-term thinking, fast decisions, deep domain expertise, global supply chains
    • Thesis: collectivized family-business capabilities could function like “Europe’s Google”
    • Sets up later discussion on Europe vs US venture dynamics
  2. 0:28 – 2:57

    Rob Lacher’s path into venture: from entrepreneur to fund builder

    Rob recounts how he moved from an early ambition to start a company to consulting, then entrepreneurship, then angel investing. Those angels evolved into La Familia, which became the proving ground for his passion: building companies through venture.

    • Early career detour into BCG; influence of mentors and founder friends
    • Built and sold a mobile company to Zalando; began angel investing
    • La Familia formed as a pooled angel/seed vehicle (early fund-scale)
    • VC became his “biggest passion,” earlier than expected
  3. 2:57 – 6:03

    Leaving La Familia and designing a durable partnership for Visionaries

    Rob explains the difficulty—and necessity—of changing partnership setups when you plan to play a 20–30 year game. He outlines what he learned about long-term founder dynamics, complementary skillsets, and when honesty matters more than comfort.

    • Why partnership structure matters in a decades-long business
    • Complementarity is valuable, but sustained collaboration requires core overlap
    • Visionaries co-founding story with Sebastian; continued stewardship of La Familia Fund I
    • Being “brutally honest” about fit to avoid long-term misalignment
  4. 6:03 – 8:13

    Partnership due diligence: purpose, strengths, and “degrees of freedom”

    Advice for new fund founders centers on deep alignment: why you’re doing it together, what each person is uniquely good at, and how you want to work. Rob positions VC as both entrepreneurship (building a firm) and investing (backing founders), requiring clarity on both.

    • Spend time on true purpose and motivations before partnering
    • Be explicit about strengths/weaknesses and what energizes each partner
    • VC is a daily balance of entrepreneurship (firm-building) and investing
    • Choosing independence over joining another platform for creative freedom
  5. 8:13 – 14:14

    VC hiring playbook: avoid “experienced VC cloning,” hire hungry intrapreneurs

    Rob argues that building a differentiated firm requires hiring people who don’t simply replicate other funds’ playbooks. He prefers young, hyper-intelligent, humble teammates who want exponential growth and can co-build the firm’s DNA.

    • Hardest part of building a firm: hiring the right team
    • Bias against hiring “trained” VCs who import prior fund logic
    • Target profile: young, hungry, humble, nonlinear thinkers
    • Mechanism: 50% role definition + 50% freedom to create alpha (example: Lisa/platform)
    • Filtering for risk-taking mindset vs high-salary entitlement
  6. 14:14 – 16:25

    Common manager mistakes: differentiation, hype-deal indexing, and portfolio construction

    Rob lists ways emerging managers fail: unclear value proposition, chasing validated hype, and building an index of others’ decisions. He advocates a blend—some marquee access is helpful, but true differentiation comes from contrarian discovery and conviction.

    • A new fund must be a “painkiller,” not a “vitamin” on the cap table
    • Over-indexing on hype deals creates an ‘average’ portfolio outcome
    • LP optics vs real alpha: a measured blend can work
    • Seed strategy debate: breadth/index model vs concentrated ‘picking’ model
  7. 16:25 – 19:43

    How Visionaries picks and wins at seed: ownership targets and founder time allocation

    Rob explains Visionaries’ concentrated seed approach and why ownership matters for fund outcomes. He shares their typical ownership bands, how they justify occasional smaller stakes, and why time spent with founders is central to their model.

    • Two seed models: broad YC-style vs concentrated high-ownership strategy
    • Visionaries target: 10–15% ownership in ~80% of seed deals
    • Occasional 2–3% positions reserved for exceptional contexts (explicit strategy)
    • Preference for fewer deals per year to spend significant time with founders
  8. 19:43 – 24:07

    Barbell fund strategy: pre-seed/seed + early Series B (skipping Series A)

    Rob details Visionaries’ two-fund setup and why they avoid the crowded European Series A ‘red ocean.’ The strategy is designed to reduce signaling risk for founders, lean into Visionaries’ network advantages, and re-engage when B2B companies begin scaling across Europe.

    • LP base split: unicorn founders + family entrepreneurs (old + new economy)
    • Europe is decentralized at seed; founder networks drive sourcing
    • Series A seen as crowded and less value-add; Visionaries skips it intentionally
    • Re-entry at early Series B/late A: 5–10M checks where network helps GTM scaling
    • Positioning as complement to major multi-stage funds, not a direct clone
  9. 24:07 – 38:17

    Reserves management in a tougher market and lessons on “expensive” winners

    Rob outlines their seed fund reserve ratio and why it hasn’t fundamentally changed despite the market shift. He explains when reserves strategies should change, how the growth fund supports concentration in breakouts, and why the best companies often look pricey early.

    • Seed fund mechanics: 40% initial, 60% reserves; fund size context (150M)
    • Why reserve policy changes only under specific drivers (momentum, weak portfolio, too many winners)
    • Growth vehicle allows continued concentration as rounds grow (5–10M checks)
    • Entry pricing: early ‘growth’ often around ~100M; avoids 400–500M entries recently
    • Retrospective mistake: not doubling down on ‘expensive’ outliers like Deel/Pigment
  10. 38:17 – 50:57

    Do VCs add value? Boards, alignment, liquidity, and secondaries

    Rob describes when VC involvement is genuinely helpful: small boards, strong devil’s-advocate posture, and leveraging networks rather than opinions. The conversation turns to founder/VC misalignment—especially liquidity pressure and secondary sales—and what constitutes healthy vs unhealthy founder liquidity.

    • Value-add depends on operating model; small boards force accountability
    • Best VC role: widen the option space; bring experts/founders, not directives
    • Big boards create noise and can force suboptimal direction
    • Key misalignment: VC opportunism and liquidity/DPI pressure vs founder long-term needs
    • Secondaries can reduce founder stress and enable risk-taking; ‘fortune off the table’ can distort incentives
  11. 50:57 – 57:15

    Europe vs USA: family offices, domain capital, and building Europe’s B2B advantage

    Rob expands his “Europe’s Google” thesis: Europe’s industrial and family-business base is uniquely positioned to power B2B disruption. He discusses barriers (risk appetite, education, activation) and cites examples like BioNTech and next-gen operators modernizing legacy giants.

    • Shift from consumer internet to B2B plays to Europe’s industrial strengths
    • Family businesses provide domain knowledge + capital + supply-chain access
    • Barriers: risk aversion, slow diversification, need for catalysts/bridges
    • Examples: Strüngmann-led BioNTech seed financing; next-gen leaders like Max Viessmann
    • Argument: Europe should build to its own ecosystem strengths, not copy Silicon Valley
  12. 57:15 – 1:10:15

    Dream for VC’s future + quick-fire: mentors, firms, and what he changed his mind on

    Rob’s 2028 vision is that venture itself gets disrupted by a smarter capital model built around domain-expert entrepreneurs and concentrated knowledge networks. In quick-fire, he names favored European firms, mentors, and broader worldview shifts—including a rethink of “growth” as society’s North Star.

    • 2028 dream: VC disrupted; domain-smart capital pools replace traditional structures
    • Founders and family entrepreneurs as core reinvestment engine for Europe
    • Quick-fire picks: Beyond Capital, Cocoa, Felix Capital, 83North
    • Mentors: Doug Leone (hunger and endurance); Harry shares Mark Evans
    • Mind change: economic growth may be the wrong societal North Star; reflections on 2020–22 excesses

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