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Disrupting the World's Largest Asset Class with Adam Neumann

After a16z announced our investment into Adam Neumann’s new company, Flow, it felt like almost everyone – whether it was other VCs, founders, or journalists – had something to say. But the one person that you didn’t hear from was Adam himself. In this never-before shared footage from a16z’s American Dynamism Summit in Washington DC, Adam Neumann sits down with Marc Andreessen and David Ulevitch, to discuss the opportunities that have emerged from post-pandemic shifts in both work and home, and what Flow is doing to address that. Find the full library of American Dynamism Summit recordings at a16z.com/ad-summit. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:14 - Getting back in the arena 08:45 - The opportunity in housing 17:16 - Lessons from WeWork 20:34 - Work & home post-pandemic 29:54 - Moving to the cloud 37:44 - Office serendipity 41:18 - Building Flow 47:33 - Cities as startups Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.

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Feb 6, 202353mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Adam Neumann Explains Why He Is Rebuilding Housing With Flow

  1. Neumann describes stepping down from WeWork, building a family office, buying about 4,000 apartments in 2020, and deciding to build Flow with a16z after an encouraging call from Marc Andreessen.
  2. An a16z speaker argues housing is one of the three biggest consumer expenses with little tech impact, and that superstar cities have stopped building housing, leaving a roughly five-year window to rethink how people live and work.
  3. Neumann says seventy percent of people 35 and under rent, housing is about a third of their spend, and renters build no equity and get a poor experience, which Flow aims to fix by building community and sharing value with residents.
  4. Flow rests on four pillars (a tech-first management company, real estate asset management, financial services, and a value-sharing mechanism) intended to form a flywheel, with churn reduction as a key lever.
  5. The speakers disagree on remote versus in-person work: a16z has moved its headquarters to the cloud with smaller offices and off-sites, while Neumann insists face-to-face serendipity is essential, and the talk closes on cities as startups and government partnership.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

A phone call from Marc Andreessen helped push Neumann back into the game

Neumann says Andreessen told him venture is hand-to-hand combat where you sometimes get punched, and that the question was when, not whether, he would return. He later found a16z felt like entrepreneurs rather than typical investors.

Renters are a huge, underserved market

Neumann cites seventy percent of those 35 and under renting, rent at roughly a third of their wallet, and no equity being built. He argues that combination is a real challenge that residential real estate has not addressed.

The pandemic detonated the corporate-campus model of community

An a16z speaker argued that the campus-like workplace gave young professionals friends and a dating pool, and that COVID left them alone in studio apartments. Neumann says that sense of connection belongs in the home even more than in the office.

Landlords had little incentive to improve the resident experience

Neumann says buildings stay full because there is a shortage of three to five million homes, so landlords never needed to compete on experience. He also says point-solution proptech struggles to sell to landlords, which is why Flow goes vertical.

Flow is designed as a flywheel tied to resident ownership

Better experience raises NOI, which helps raise capital to buy more buildings, which brings more users to the financial services. Neumann says cutting churn from 50% to 40% would lift NOI about 5% and returns by 500 basis points.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

4 quotes

I think human potential is in the cloud, I believe it, but human interaction is happening right here.

— Adam Neumann

I think you can take your, your work into your home, but you can't take your home into your work, and that's affecting a lot of change.

— Adam Neumann

Well, I think the first place turned out to be the third place. I think the home is the most important thing.

— Adam Neumann

if you're in your apartment building and you're a renter and your toilet gets clogged, you call the super. If you're in your own apartment and you're, and you bought it and you own it and your toilet gets clogged, you take the plunger.

— Adam Neumann

Returning to the arena after WeWorkHousing as the largest asset classRenters and lack of equityPost-pandemic work and homea16z's move to the cloudSerendipity versus remote workFlow's four pillars and flywheel

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