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The Electrification of Everything: From Sky to Sea

Demand for electric cars is booming. More than 10 million electric cars were sold worldwide in 2022, and consumer behavior is changing as more people embrace alternative and sustainable modes of mobility. While the electrification movement is a critical element of climate action, it also presents new challenges - from the sky to the sea. In this episode, industry experts Gregory Davis, CEO of Eviation Planes, Mitch Lee, co-founder and CEO of Arc Boats, and Duncan McIntyre, founder and CEO of Highland Electric Fleets, dive into how the electrification movement is shaping the future of transport and technology. Topics Covered: 00:00 - Introduction 03:29 - The sustainable aviation industry 04:47 - Electric school, municipal and government vehicles 07:57 - Electric boats 10:49 - What can be transferred from the EV car market? 14:06 - Battery challenges and architecture 19:06 - Providing grid services 22:55 - Building a multimodal business 33:19 - Gaps in the market 46:16 - Do you make, buy, or borrow? 57:26 - What does the future look like for each industry? Resources: * Learn more about Arc Boats: https://arcboats.com * Learn more about Highland Electric Fleets: https://highlandfleets.com * Learn more about Eviation: https://www.eviation.com Stay Updated: Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://twitter.com/stephsmithio Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.

Steph SmithhostGregory DavisguestDuncan McIntyreguestMitch Leeguest
Jun 12, 20231h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Planes, Boats, and Buses Ride the EV Wave Together

  1. Gregory Davis of Eviation, Mitch Lee of Arc Boats, and Duncan McIntyre of Highland Electric Fleets each describe electrifying a different vehicle category and framing it as an upgrade in cost, noise, and reliability rather than only a climate move.
  2. The founders say they benefit from auto-industry battery cell and powertrain advances, yet each needs unique battery architecture because boats, planes, and buses differ in power draw, cycle life, and weight constraints.
  3. Business models go beyond selling vehicles: Highland charges per mile and earns grid-services revenue, Arc offers software and home backup power, and Eviation sells aircraft, support, and charging.
  4. The guests identify gaps in interoperability standards, supply chains, charging infrastructure planning, and shared high-voltage components as opportunities for entrepreneurs.
  5. They name moats such as vertically integrated batteries, scale and cheap capital, certification under existing standards, and real order books, and they predict quieter, cleaner, cheaper transport.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Electrification works best when framed as an upgrade, not just a climate fix

Duncan McIntyre says many commercial customers disengage if the conversation starts with CO2, but respond to lower operating and maintenance costs, quiet, and better local air quality.

Auto industry R&D enabled these new categories

Mitch Lee says hundreds of billions of dollars of auto investment in batteries and supply chains made electric boats possible, and Gregory Davis credits automotive for cell energy-density gains.

Each vehicle type needs its own battery design

Eviation designs batteries for replacement every 3,000 cycles, Arc faces a boating season of only 50 to 100 hours, and boats need high continuous rather than peak power, so packs are not interchangeable.

Idle time makes vehicles grid assets

Duncan McIntyre says about half of Highland's projects send power back to the grid, earning about a third of revenue in New England, while Mitch Lee sees boats powering homes in the off-season.

Performance-based service models lower adoption barriers

Highland often charges by the mile, such as $3.50 per mile, and does not get paid if a charger fails, which aligns incentives and eases fears about new technology.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Electric boats are, are just better boats, and they make a ton of sense.

— Mitch Lee

Watch planes fly by. Th- there's a 30% chance that the plane that you're looking at is flying a flight of less than 250 n- miles.

— Gregory Davis

And five megawatts is, is like five hospitals coming online overnight.

— Duncan McIntyre

ideas are cheap. The hard part is execution. Mm-hmm. I'm sure there are a million people in the US that have thought somebody should make a Tesla for boats.

— Mitch Lee

So when you go in and you do a, a mandatory maintenance activity, which is absolutely normal for an airplane, you actually end up getting a better plane.

— Gregory Davis

Electric aviation and emissionsElectric school buses and municipal fleetsElectric recreational boatsBorrowing from the auto EV industryBattery architecture and lifecycleVehicle-to-grid and backup powerSupply chain and interoperability gaps

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