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The New Media Advantage with Ben Horowitz and Marc Andreessen

Recorded live at the New Media Summit, Marc Andreessen, Ben Horowitz, Erik Torenberg, and Gaby Goldberg discuss how media, communication, and influence are changing in the internet era. The conversation explores the shift from legacy media to creator-led platforms, why authenticity has become a competitive advantage, and how founders can build audiences by communicating directly with customers, employees, and the public. They discuss podcasts, social media, storytelling, corporate communications, and the changing relationship between companies, journalists, and audiences. Along the way, they examine how founders can develop a public voice, why some leaders become influential communicators, and what it means to build a brand in a world where distribution is increasingly decentralized. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: The New Rules of Media 00:56 - Why Authenticity Beats Media Training 02:41 - Marc's Media Training Horror Story 06:59 - How the Legacy Press Turned Adversarial 11:58 - Going Direct: The Founder Is the Brand 20:20 - Picking Your Battles: When to Fight Back 23:42 - Why Being Polarizing Beats Being Liked 25:06 - Hiring a Team Built for New Media 30:03 - The Founder Messaging Mistakes to Avoid 33:47 - Tell the Bigger Story: The Alex Karp Playbook Resources: Follow Marc Andreessen on X: https://x.com/pmarca Follow Ben Horowitz on X: https://x.com/bhorowitz Follow Erik Torenberg on X: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Follow Gaby Goldberg on X: https://x.com/gaby_goldberg Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Find a16z on X: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg This material is solely for educational purposes and is not investment advice or an offer of investment advisory services. This material should not be used as the basis for an investment decision. a16z is an investor in SpaceX and Cursor through its managed funds, and thus has a financial interest in the company's performance and future prospects. In particular, a16z benefits if the company grows in value; and a16z funds will receive any customary dividend payments in connection with their status as a shareholder of the company. However, a16z is not being compensated by SpaceX or Cursor for this material. Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see http://a16z.com/disclosures.

Ben HorowitzguestMarc AndreessenguestErik TorenberghostGaby Goldbergguest
Jun 19, 202641mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:24

    New media flips the playbook: be interesting, be the brand

    Ben and Marc set the premise: old media rewarded bland, defensive messaging, while new media rewards interesting, human-first communication. They preview core ideas that recur throughout—unlimited formats, direct channels, and the founder as the primary brand asset.

    • Old media norms discouraged being "interesting" to avoid controversy
    • New media offers unlimited channels and formats (especially long-form)
    • Personal brand increasingly outranks corporate brand in attention markets
    • Effective messaging starts from authenticity and real conversation
    • Early examples teased: Alex Karp, founders as communicators
  2. 1:24 – 2:04

    Authenticity over polish: why “media training” often backfires

    Marc explains why audiences now value a founder who sounds like themselves rather than a rehearsed spokesperson. He connects the rise of long-form podcasts to a demand for genuine, context-rich thinking that can’t be faked with soundbites.

    • Authenticity = matching on-camera voice to how you speak privately
    • Long-form formats reward real thinking and personality
    • Over-optimized PR behavior creates “plastic” executive communication
    • Many leaders mistakenly define success as “making no news”
    • The audience wants to feel they’re meeting the real person
  3. 2:04 – 7:12

    Marc’s media-training horror story—and the “lunch with a friend” breakthrough

    Marc recounts classic media training: simulated adversarial interviews and painful playback critique. The key insight from a top trainer: only speak on what you know deeply, and say it like you would to a friend—then selectively pivot away from bad questions.

    • Traditional media training emphasizes control, minimizing controversy
    • Watching yourself on tape is brutal but revealing (tics, filler words, affect)
    • Best advice: speak only on topics you know inside-out, conversationally
    • Use a “pivot” to avoid traps without sounding robotic
    • Great communicators (Elon, Palmer, Jensen, Karp) now operate this way
  4. 7:12 – 10:20

    How legacy press became adversarial—and why founders must “go direct”

    Marc argues legacy media shifted from “objective” reporting toward agenda-driven activism, changing the interaction from collaborative explanation to adversarial framing. The practical consequence: you can’t build a reliable strategy on traditional press, so founders must own distribution and work with new-media allies.

    • Legacy press claimed two missions: objectivity + “speak truth to power”
    • The second mission overwhelmed the first, shifting toward activism
    • Post-2017: tech coverage increasingly framed as hostile/negative
    • Founders may land occasional good stories, but can’t depend on it strategically
    • New playbook: go direct + cultivate aligned new-media channels
  5. 10:20 – 11:54

    Prestige hangover: letting go of legacy-media validation

    They address the lingering belief that respectability comes from traditional outlets. Examples from Washington show newsletters and new-media sources increasingly shape elite opinion, underscoring that influence has migrated.

    • Many still chase legacy media for “prestige,” often irrationally
    • New media (newsletters/podcasts) now sets agendas, including in DC
    • The quality and volume of smart long-form conversation has exploded
    • The old “Charlie Rose at midnight” scarcity is gone
    • Founders should update their mental model of where influence lives
  6. 11:54 – 15:41

    Going direct is table stakes: the founder (or permanent figure) must be the brand

    Gaby asks whether founders must become spokespeople; Ben explains why modern branding attaches to people, not logos. While a company can sometimes designate another enduring leader as the public face, it can’t outsource the role to a rotating marketing exec—and it must stay interesting to survive the feed.

    • Old media: restricted channels/short formats; companies were the brands
    • New media: unlimited formats; attention attaches to individuals
    • It can be someone other than CEO, but must be a long-term “name on the door” figure
    • Being interesting is mandatory; boring messages get drowned out
    • Examples: Elon/SpaceX, Karp/Palantir, Palmer/Anduril dynamics
  7. 15:41 – 20:16

    Why corporate brands replaced personal brands—and why that era is ending

    Marc offers a historical/technological explanation: centralized media forced extreme message compression, favoring abstract corporate brands. As media decentralizes again, the system reverts to founder-centric identity, raising the bar for leaders to communicate in expansive formats (e.g., 3-hour podcasts).

    • Pre-1930s: companies commonly named after founders (Ford, Edison)
    • Centralized media created a “narrow straw,” forcing atomic brand compression
    • Corporate/consumer brand era fit centralized distribution constraints
    • Decentralization now rewards expansive, personality-led storytelling
    • The “Rogan test” illustrates the new expectation: long-form, unscripted presence
  8. 20:16 – 23:38

    Picking your battles: when responding publicly builds your brand (and when it’s bait)

    Ben and Marc describe the constant temptation to respond to criticism, and the discipline required to avoid amplifying nobodies. But when an attack has real reach, responding can be a powerful brand moment—if it’s the right fight and you don’t end up building the attacker’s platform.

    • Default urge: respond to every negative comment; this doesn’t scale
    • Don’t amplify low-reach critics (e.g., random replies)
    • If a narrative “hits,” rebuttal can become a brand-building opportunity
    • Ben’s NYT/Instagram response as an example of converting conflict into momentum
    • Rule: choose fights that strengthen your position, not theirs
  9. 23:38 – 24:47

    Polarization beats lukewarm: why you need both lovers and haters

    They argue neutrality is marketing death in new media: being interesting inherently creates detractors. Instead of seeking universal approval, leaders should accept (and even value) polarized reactions as proof they matter—while ensuring they have the “right enemies” to galvanize supporters.

    • Neutral/lukewarm = uninteresting, easily ignored
    • Scale guarantees criticism; no more lasting “puff pieces” for big figures
    • Trying to be liked by everyone ruins differentiation and messaging
    • “Right enemies” can strengthen identity and community
    • Reframe hate as evidence of impact—if aligned with your mission
  10. 24:47 – 27:40

    Hiring for new media: avoid old-media instincts, recruit builders and storytellers

    Ben explains that old-media training can be a handicap because the rules invert in new media. The team you want has proof-of-work building audience and discourse fluency, with multiple strong storytellers—not just tactical marketers.

    • Old-media experience often encodes the wrong reflexes for new media
    • Hire people who have built audience and can deliver end-to-end
    • Look for discourse obsession and proof-of-work (writing, podcast fluency)
    • Storytelling skill is rare and compounding—elite level matters
    • Aim for a bench of storytellers, not a single executive mouthpiece
  11. 27:40 – 30:11

    Storytelling vs “propaganda”: authenticity as explanation and civic responsibility

    Marc rejects the binary that only legacy press does “journalism” and everything else is propaganda. He frames founder-led communication as honest explanation of complex technological change, and highlights the value of high-quality narrative work that helps the public understand what’s real.

    • Press often frames direct comms as “marketing/propaganda”—they disagree
    • Authentic storytelling = explaining reality with context, not making things up
    • Good stories have structure: tension, detail, beginning/middle/end
    • Audience feedback rewards clarity: “Now I understand this topic”
    • Tech leaders have a responsibility to explain profound, complex shifts
  12. 30:11 – 34:04

    Founder messaging mistakes: distribution can’t fix a weak message

    Gaby outlines common founder errors: chasing virality and tactics before nailing what you actually stand for. She emphasizes starting from outcomes (sales, hiring, positioning) and working backward to a relevant, timely message—because amplification multiplies whatever you say, good or bad.

    • Mistake #1: over-indexing on distribution (viral, big shows) before message
    • Distribution is a multiplier—wrong message gets amplified faster
    • Even top platforms (Rogan/Bloomberg) are harmful if you say the wrong thing
    • Mistake #2: starting from inputs (everything you could say) vs outcomes
    • Work backward from target audience and desired belief/behavior change
  13. 34:04 – 40:24

    Outside-in storytelling: the Alex Karp playbook and the “bigger story” frame

    Marc and Ben explain how to escape boring “inside-out” founder narratives by anchoring to the most interesting forces in the world and connecting your company to them. Using Alex Karp and Ryan Petersen as examples, they show how founders become the first call on major topics by consistently speaking from the helicopter view.

    • Inside-out startup stories are boring, generic, and self-centered
    • Outside-in: start with major world events/trends, then relate them to you
    • Alex Karp rarely “talks product”; he owns the big geopolitical/AI narratives
    • Ryan Petersen reframed freight into global supply-chain collapse
    • This framing earns enterprise credibility and access to top decision makers
  14. 40:24 – 41:51

    It’s learnable: communicators are made, not born

    They close by emphasizing that great founder communication is a skill developed over time. Examples like Alex Karp (and even Trump’s evolution) illustrate that leaders can grow into the new media environment through iteration and practice.

    • New-media communication improves with reps and feedback
    • Early interviews/tweets from top communicators often look unpolished
    • Skill development matters more than innate charisma
    • Studying before/after trajectories (Karp, Palmer, Elon, others) shows the path
    • The new bar is sustained, interesting, long-form clarity

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