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BigDeal by Codie SanchezThe Psychology of Cheaters (According To A Divorce Lawyer) | James Sexton
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
How disconnection, contempt, and attention predict divorce—and prevent it
- James Sexton describes the early signs of marital breakdown as a shift from curiosity to contempt, often audible in dismissive tone and visible in disengaged behavior.
- He argues most relationship failures come from slow, cumulative disconnection and can often be reversed through small daily choices that rebuild attention, grace, and affection.
- He reframes “love” through a lawyer’s lens as something that should have evidence—measurable actions and regular check-ins—rather than only feelings or declarations.
- He critiques social media as amplifying performative relationship narratives and comparison, sometimes masking serious private conflict.
- He connects his courtroom persuasion methods to relationships, emphasizing how phrasing, framing, humility, and vulnerability can change outcomes and reduce defensiveness.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasContemptful, dismissive tone is a loud early warning sign of divorce.
He says he can often hear it in the tone: the repeated "What? Huh? Yeah, whatever" that signals contempt and disinterest replacing curiosity. He also points to behavior like talking past each other, not listening, and disengaging (e.g., phones while the other speaks).
Relationships tend to deteriorate gradually, then feel like they collapse overnight.
He argues disconnection usually builds through small daily choices and attention shifts (work, mental load, parenting) until people suddenly realize how far apart they’ve gotten. He compares it to bankruptcy: "very slowly and then all at once."
Small, frequent acts of attention can reverse apathy faster than grand gestures.
He frames reconnection as reversing the same spiral with small, consistent actions—more grace, praise, affection, and attention. He gives an example of sending a quick text in the middle of the day to express appreciation or attraction, describing it as low-cost with potentially high return.
Treat love like a verb you can measure—ask for proof and feedback.
He repeatedly returns to “evidence” as a lawyer’s mindset: not “I love you,” but what actions prove it. He suggests a weekly check-in such as naming three things that made someone feel loved, three things that could be better, and three things that were attractive/connecting.
Performing relationship happiness online can distort reality and fuel harmful comparison.
He argues social media can reduce loneliness at its best but often becomes a “performative self” where people post highlights while living their “gag reel.” He describes clients publicly presenting “hashtag blessed” while privately negotiating divorce, and says genuinely happy people are often too busy being happy to convince others.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI've always said, like, to me, the, the s- sound of a, of a marriage that's about to end is, is like, it's, it's a very simple, subtle sound. It's this. It's, "What? Huh? Y- yeah, whatever."
— James Sexton
Because love is anything, it's the invitation to, like, try to help your partner every day see the best parts of themselves because you try to keep that in your own line of sight.
— James Sexton
The illusion that it's got a wall around it and a moat around it will make you forget that it's fragile. Love is not permanently gifted, it's loaned, you know?
— James Sexton
I've always said in relationship, like, if you're gonna rob me of solitude, you owe me companionship.
— James Sexton
If all I show you is how put together and phenomenal I am, and I hide all the weak parts in me and all the vulnerable, stupid, silly, impatient, impetuous parts of me- All the shit I need to work on. If I hide all that, I will never feel your love.
— James Sexton
SPEAKERS
James Sexton
guestDivorce attorney known for high-profile family law cases and commentary on relationships and marriage.
Codie Sanchez
hostEntrepreneur and media host of BigDeal by Codie Sanchez, interviewing business and subject-matter experts.
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