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World Leading Psychologist: How To Detach From Overthinking & Anxiety: Dr Julie Smith | E122

This weeks episode entitled 'World Leading Psychologist: How To Detach From Overthinking & Anxiety: Dr Julie Smith' topics: 0:00 Intro 00:58 What made you want to help people? 05:32 How did a therapist make it onto tiktok? 14:13 Dealing with rejection 23:46 The consequences of having a big platform 32:11 Having the right values & goals 39:04 How do we make meaningful change? 40:36 How do I change my mood? 42:46 How important is sleep? 45:12 How to stay motivated 48:09 What is the cure for overload? 51:23 The balance of embracing emotions vs ignoring them 54:32 The stigma around addressing a situation 01:00:41 How do you build confidence 01:03:21 How important is it to not make decisions in high emotion moments? 01:07:32 Building self esteem by having a good relationship with failure 01:12:36 Using our breathing to manage anxiety 01:20:53 Is it important to understand we’re going to die? 01:24:39 The importance of relationships 01:32:07 Are you happy? 01:33:33 The last guest question Julie’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0241529719/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_V6BCCKNCQY8W6WBHK8W9 Julie: https://www.tiktok.com/@drjuliesmith Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsor: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven

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Mar 2, 20221h 36mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Detach From Overthinking: Dr Julie Smith’s Real Guide To Anxiety

  1. Clinical psychologist and author Dr Julie Smith explains how everyday psychological skills—not therapy-room secrets—can help people manage anxiety, overthinking, low mood, and relationship patterns. She and Steven Bartlett explore core beliefs, rejection, social media pressure, burnout, and why values, not feelings, should guide decisions.
  2. Dr Smith traces her unlikely journey from a quiet one‑woman practice to millions of followers on TikTok, and describes the emotional cost of public life, impostor syndrome, and constant feedback. She emphasizes practical tools like journaling, values check‑ins, breathwork, and small habit changes over time.
  3. They also unpack relationship myths, the role of childhood in adult patterns, self-compassion versus self-esteem, and how acknowledging mortality can clarify what truly matters. Throughout, Smith stresses that there is no shortcut to a problem‑free life, but there are simple, evidence‑based tools anyone can use to suffer less and live more meaningfully.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Follow interests, not epiphanies, to build a fulfilling career.

Dr Smith didn’t have a dramatic origin story; she simply followed what fascinated her—people and psychology—through A‑level, university, and eventually clinical work. When advising others, she suggests dropping the pressure to find a single ‘life-changing passion’ and instead repeatedly choosing the next genuinely interesting step. This iterative approach increases the chances you’ll land in work you actually enjoy, without needing a grand, defining moment.

Map your patterns to uncover core beliefs and break painful cycles.

Using ideas from Cognitive Analytic Therapy (CAT), Smith explains that childhood experiences create ‘core beliefs’ (e.g., “I’m unlovable,” “relationships are prisons”) and survival strategies that become outdated but persist into adulthood. By journaling sequences—what happened, what you did, how you felt, how the other likely felt—you start to see recurring cycles in arguments, dating, or work. First you recognize them in hindsight, then in the moment, where you finally get a chance to choose a different response and slowly rewrite the pattern.

Use values—not momentary feelings—as your decision compass.

Goals are finite (pass an exam); values are ongoing directions (being a caring partner, a curious learner). Smith suggests doing regular ‘values check‑ins’: list key life areas (family, relationships, health, work, learning, contribution), define how you want to behave in each (e.g., “enthusiastic,” “present,” “kind”), then rate how aligned your recent behavior is. Gaps between importance and alignment highlight where you need to adjust actions (e.g., booking a flight to see your partner, reducing work commitments) instead of letting short-term comfort or stress dictate choices.

Small, repeated actions—not dramatic pivots—create sustainable change.

Smith cautions against the popular narrative that meaningful change requires a drastic 90‑degree life turn. In therapy and behavior change, big shifts typically emerge from many small adjustments, each followed by reflection and course correction. Building habits by doing a challenging‑but‑manageable version of the new behavior every day leverages the brain’s love of repetition: what you do repeatedly becomes your new comfort zone, whether that’s public speaking, dating, or tolerating discomfort without numbing out.

To manage anxiety and bad days, start with your body and connection.

Thinking your way out of intense anxiety or low mood is hard; it’s often faster to intervene through the body and environment. Smith recommends movement (exercise, walking), music, using your voice (singing), quality human connection (a hug, deep conversation), and especially sleep. For acute anxiety, she teaches slow, structured breathing (e.g., box breathing—inhale, hold, exhale, hold for equal counts—or simply making the exhale longer than the inhale) to down‑regulate the fight‑or‑flight response. These don’t erase problems but create enough shift to respond more skillfully.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The things that tend to work in the long term are hardest in the moment, like sitting with it and feeling it and using skills to get yourself through it.

Dr Julie Smith

Confidence cannot grow if we are never willing to be without it.

Dr Julie Smith (referencing her book)

You can have a hundred positive comments and you will scroll through them to find the one that's not positive… because you're built to look for any signs that this is not okay.

Dr Julie Smith

Emotions are information. It's your brain's best guess at what might be going on around you, and your brain sometimes gets it right and sometimes gets it wrong.

Dr Julie Smith

Big, meaningful change is not made drastically and quickly. Sustainable change is made carefully.

Dr Julie Smith

Dr Julie Smith’s background and path into psychology and social mediaCore beliefs, rejection, and repetitive relationship patterns (CAT therapy concepts)Social media, impostor syndrome, overload, and public scrutinyValues vs goals, behavior change, and sustainable habit formationManaging anxiety, bad days, and emotional overwhelm (breathwork, movement, connection)Self-esteem, self-compassion, affirmations, and confidence buildingRelationships, societal myths about love, and living a meaningful, ‘human’ life

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