Joseph Carlsmith - Utopia, AI, & Infinite Ethics

Joseph Carlsmith is a senior research analyst at Open Philanthropy and a doctoral student in philosophy at the University of Oxford. Learn about Joseph and read his work at: https://www.josephcarlsmith.com/ Podcast website: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/joseph-carlsmith Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Qcboq0 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3zrElYb Follow me: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Follow Joseph: https://twitter.com/jkcarlsmith Timestamps: 00:00:00 Preview 00:00:55 Introduction 00:03:42 How to define a better future? 00:10:08 Utopia 00:26:01 Robin Hanson’s EMs 00:28:24 Human Computational Capacity 00:35:04 FLOPS to emulate human cognition? 00:41:04 Infinite Ethics 01:01:40 SIA vs SSA 01:18:42 Futurism & Unreality 01:24:25 Blogging & Productivity 01:29:32 Book Recommendations 01:30:53 Conclusion

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Aug 3, 20221h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: August 3, 2022
Duration: 1h 32m
Channel: Dwarkesh Podcast
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Joseph Carlsmith is a senior research analyst at Open Philanthropy and a doctoral student in philosophy at the University of Oxford. Learn about Joseph and read his work at: https://www.josephcarlsmith.com/ Podcast website: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/joseph-carlsmith Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Qcboq0 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3zrElYb Follow me: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Follow Joseph: https://twitter.com/jkcarlsmith Timestamps: 00:00:00 Preview 00:00:55 Introduction 00:03:42 How to define a better future? 00:10:08 Utopia 00:26:01 Robin Hanson’s EMs 00:28:24 Human Computational Capacity 00:35:04 FLOPS to emulate human cognition? 00:41:04 Infinite Ethics 01:01:40 SIA vs SSA 01:18:42 Futurism & Unreality 01:24:25 Blogging & Productivity 01:29:32 Book Recommendations 01:30:53 Conclusion

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Joseph (Joe) Carlsmith
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Dwarkesh Patel
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Dwarkesh Podcast, featuring Joseph (Joe) Carlsmith and Dwarkesh Patel, Joseph Carlsmith - Utopia, AI, & Infinite Ethics explores joseph Carlsmith explores utopia, AI risk, and infinite ethics Joseph Carlsmith, a philosopher and AI x‑risk researcher at Open Philanthropy, discusses how seriously we should take the possibility of a radically better future (utopia), and the risks posed by transformative AI. He argues that utopia should be seen as a profoundly better but still concrete, finite world, likely reachable only after a long process of civilizational wisdom and coordination, not a simple hedonistic tiling of the universe.

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