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Men Beyond Utility with Dr. John Delony

In this episode of Good Inside, Dr. Becky talks with bestselling author and mental health expert Dr. John Delony about the utility trap — the pressure many men feel to always be useful, fix problems, and provide solutions, often at the expense of emotional connection. John shares his own experiences as a dad learning to step out of “fix-it mode” and into emotional presence, vulnerability, and attunement. If you’ve ever felt stuck in the role of provider or problem-solver, or you’re parenting with someone who is, this conversation is a powerful invitation to redefine what it really means to show up. Get the Good Inside App by Dr. Becky: https://bit.ly/4fSxbzk Follow Dr. Becky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbeckyatgoodinside Sign up for our weekly email, Good Insider: https://www.goodinside.com/newsletter For a full transcript of the episode, go to goodinside.com/podcast. As parents, the mental load is real—to-do lists, doctor’s appointments, sports practices, work events, birthday parties… Should I keep going? If your family is anything like mine, it can feel like there are a thousand things to remember and your brain is running on overdrive. What if I told you there's a way to bring a little more calm and clarity to your chaotic, always-changing family schedule? Meet Skylight Calendar. It’s a central, easy-to-see touchscreen with clear colors, so everyone in your family can stay in the loop. As someone obsessed with efficiency, it almost feels like magic how seamlessly it syncs with all of the calendars you're already using—Google Calendar, Apple Calendar, Outlook, and more. I truly see this tool as your partner in sharing the mental load with your kids AND partner. And because life doesn't stop when you leave the house, Skylight offers a free companion app. You can add or update events, check off to-do lists, and stay in sync with your family no matter where you are. Another great feature: If you're not completely thrilled within 120 days, you can return it for a full refund. Ready to say goodbye to calendar chaos and hello to a more organized and connected family life? Right now, Skylight is offering our listeners $30 off their 15-inch Calendars. Just go to skylightcal.com/BECKY for $30 off. This offer expires December 31, 2025. Today’s episode is also brought to you by Great Wolf Lodge. As a mom of three kids, I’m always on the lookout for family adventures that offer something for everyone (including myself!). That’s why Great Wolf Lodge is high on our list of future destinations! They offer a world of fun, all under one roof, including water slides, a lazy river, a massive wave pool, arcade games, mini golf and nightly dance parties! With 23 locations all across North America, and more on the way, chances are there’s a Great Wolf Lodge just a short drive away from you. You can save up to 40% off on any stay at Great Wolf Lodge from now through August 31st when you book at participating lodges. Just visit [GreatWolf.com](http://greatwolf.com/) and enter the promo code “GoodInside” – when you book.

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Redefining fatherhood through presence, emotional modeling, and self-compassion practices

  1. A dad’s shift from yelling to relating (sharing his own childhood school fears) illustrates how connection and storytelling can quickly reduce conflict and increase cooperation.
  2. Delony describes how many men learn their value is “utility” (being right/fixing), making accountability and apologizing feel like an existential threat rather than a healthy repair tool.
  3. They argue that preparing kids for the “real world” is like training for a fight or swimming in the ocean: skill-building and supportive practice create resilience better than constant harshness.
  4. The conversation reframes providing/protecting as offering a “sturdy place” emotionally—supporting without solving—so kids learn they can handle hard things with secure backing.
  5. Delony emphasizes fathers’ inner work (therapy, trusted male friendships, self-acceptance) as foundational to reducing reactivity and modeling emotional regulation for children.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Connection often works faster than control.

Relating to a child’s experience (“I had mornings I didn’t want school either”) can de-escalate resistance and invite cooperation more effectively than threats or yelling.

“Toughening up” through harshness can weaken long-term resilience.

Like modern MMA training, constant intensity (yelling, punishment, emotional intimidation) builds avoidance strategies, not skills; kids learn to manage Dad, not manage life.

Kids don’t learn emotional maturity from lectures—they learn it from your nervous system.

Accountability, calm under stress, and respectful conflict are absorbed through repeated lived experiences, not 60-second speeches about respect or toughness.

When a dad’s value equals “utility,” being wrong feels dangerous.

If identity is built on fixing and correct answers, apologizing becomes threatening—leading to doubling down, blaming, aggression, or withdrawal instead of repair.

Support without solving is a form of providing and protecting.

In moments of disappointment (missed team, social exclusion), simple presence and validation (“That sucks,” “That’s the worst”) creates safety while still allowing the child to carry the challenge.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I can look back at the compa- with compassion and say, "Oh, this is a guy that would open up his tool kit and there's only a couple of tools in there, and yet he built a house with only one or two tools. And yet it's my job now if I want things to be different to have more tools in that tool kit."

Dr. John Delony

I think the, the implicit message I think I've, I've received from all environments, from growing up to professional, is I have one value in the world, and it's utility.

Dr. John Delony

And so I think there's this idea that if my only value is in- ... the answers I give, then that means being wrong is an existential threat.

Dr. John Delony

You can say whatever you want, they don't listen to you. If you want your kids to respect women, it's important for them to see it.

Dr. Michael Gomez

Oh, you have an answer for everything, but you can't sit in my presence and be okay with you.

Dr. John Delony

Fatherhood scripts and generational inheritanceConnection vs yelling/punishmentToughness, resilience, and skill-building metaphors (MMA/swimming)Utility identity and fear of being wrongSupport vs solutions in marriage and parentingFixing, invalidation, and emotional copingGrief over “pictures” of family life and letting kids individuateMen’s friendships, therapy, and self-compassion practices

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