Skip to content
Huberman LabHuberman Lab

Bringing Extinct Species Back to Life | Dr. Beth Shapiro

Dr. Beth Shapiro, PhD, is an evolutionary biologist and Chief Science Officer at Colossal Biosciences. Her work focuses on de-extinction and wildlife conservation efforts. We discuss genetic differences among humans, and how ancient DNA and modern embryology are being used to de-extinct and protect woolly mammoths, dodo birds, and dire wolves, as well as to help conserve endangered species. We also explore the ethical implications of de-extinction and how synthetic biology can help build a more bio diverse and resilient world. Show notes: https://go.hubermanlab.com/JKtj3zr Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Joovv: https://joovv.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman Huberman Lab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab X: https://x.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Dr. Beth Shapiro Colossal Biosciences: https://colossal.com/team/beth-shapiro-ph-d-3 Academic profile: https://directory.ucsc.edu/cd_detail?guid=G024262336 National Geographic: https://explorers.nationalgeographic.org/directory/beth-shapiro Lab: https://pgl.soe.ucsc.edu Publications: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=8Mv9l1oAAAAJ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-shapiro-27344222 X: https://x.com/bonesandbugs Timestamps 00:00:00 Beth Shapiro 00:02:35 What is a Species?, Taxonomy, Bison 00:09:13 Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo Sapiens 00:12:38 Sponsors: Joovv & Eight Sleep 00:15:27 Hybrid Ancestry, “Grolar” Bears 00:20:30 Homo Sapiens & Neanderthal Interbreeding, Genes; Denisovans 00:25:53 Neanderthal Genes, Immunity, Red Hair; Eye Color 00:30:17 De-Extinction, Species Selection, Woolly Mammoths 00:38:08 Sponsor: AG1 00:39:21 Bird De-Extinction, Dodo; Reproduction & Genes 00:47:40 Development Biology, Woolly Mammoth, Elephants 00:54:49 Dire Wolf, Synthetic Biology, Ethics 01:03:26 De-Extinction, Ecology, Conservation, Ethics 01:09:22 Ecosystem Resilience, Thylacine; Preventing Extinction, Quolls 01:15:45 Sponsor: Function 01:17:23 Modeling Ecological Impact, Mosquitoes, Gene Drives; Panthers 01:25:50 Advisory Panels, Synthetic Biology Education 01:29:13 Genetic Selection in Humans, Human-Shaped World 01:38:25 Black-Footed Ferrets, Genetic Rescue 01:47:05 Dire Wolf; Ecological Modeling, New Technology & Public Fear 01:55:09 Artificial Wombs; Current Issues, Conservation & Red Wolf 02:01:26 Science Pioneers; Colossal Public Education 02:04:31 Beth’s Science Origin Story; Dinosaurs 02:13:42 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Dr. Beth ShapiroguestAndrew Hubermanhost
Oct 5, 20262h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

Episode Details

EPISODE INFO

Released
October 5, 2026
Duration
2h 15m
Channel
Huberman Lab
Watch on YouTube
▶ Open ↗

EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Dr. Beth Shapiro, PhD, is an evolutionary biologist and Chief Science Officer at Colossal Biosciences. Her work focuses on de-extinction and wildlife conservation efforts. We discuss genetic differences among humans, and how ancient DNA and modern embryology are being used to de-extinct and protect woolly mammoths, dodo birds, and dire wolves, as well as to help conserve endangered species. We also explore the ethical implications of de-extinction and how synthetic biology can help build a more bio diverse and resilient world. Show notes: https://go.hubermanlab.com/JKtj3zr Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Joovv: https://joovv.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman Huberman Lab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab X: https://x.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Dr. Beth Shapiro Colossal Biosciences: https://colossal.com/team/beth-shapiro-ph-d-3 Academic profile: https://directory.ucsc.edu/cd_detail?guid=G024262336 National Geographic: https://explorers.nationalgeographic.org/directory/beth-shapiro Lab: https://pgl.soe.ucsc.edu Publications: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=8Mv9l1oAAAAJ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-shapiro-27344222 X: https://x.com/bonesandbugs Timestamps 00:00:00 Beth Shapiro 00:02:35 What is a Species?, Taxonomy, Bison 00:09:13 Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo Sapiens 00:12:38 Sponsors: Joovv & Eight Sleep 00:15:27 Hybrid Ancestry, “Grolar” Bears 00:20:30 Homo Sapiens & Neanderthal Interbreeding, Genes; Denisovans 00:25:53 Neanderthal Genes, Immunity, Red Hair; Eye Color 00:30:17 De-Extinction, Species Selection, Woolly Mammoths 00:38:08 Sponsor: AG1 00:39:21 Bird De-Extinction, Dodo; Reproduction & Genes 00:47:40 Development Biology, Woolly Mammoth, Elephants 00:54:49 Dire Wolf, Synthetic Biology, Ethics 01:03:26 De-Extinction, Ecology, Conservation, Ethics 01:09:22 Ecosystem Resilience, Thylacine; Preventing Extinction, Quolls 01:15:45 Sponsor: Function 01:17:23 Modeling Ecological Impact, Mosquitoes, Gene Drives; Panthers 01:25:50 Advisory Panels, Synthetic Biology Education 01:29:13 Genetic Selection in Humans, Human-Shaped World 01:38:25 Black-Footed Ferrets, Genetic Rescue 01:47:05 Dire Wolf; Ecological Modeling, New Technology & Public Fear 01:55:09 Artificial Wombs; Current Issues, Conservation & Red Wolf 02:01:26 Science Pioneers; Colossal Public Education 02:04:31 Beth’s Science Origin Story; Dinosaurs 02:13:42 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

SPEAKERS

  • Dr. Beth Shapiro

    guest

    Evolutionary biologist and ancient DNA researcher focused on de-extinction and conservation genetics.

  • Andrew Huberman

    host

    Professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab podcast.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Huberman Lab, featuring Dr. Beth Shapiro and Andrew Huberman, Bringing Extinct Species Back to Life | Dr. Beth Shapiro explores de-extinction explained: engineering mammoths, dire wolves, and conservation biotech Dr. Beth Shapiro explains why “species” is a flexible human label, and how genetics and hybridization (e.g., Neanderthal–human admixture) complicate simplistic taxonomy.

RELATED EPISODES

Tools to Improve Your Focus & Concentration | Huberman Lab Essentials

Tools to Improve Your Focus & Concentration | Huberman Lab Essentials

What Humans, Animals and Plants Tell Us About Consciousness | Michael Pollan

What Humans, Animals and Plants Tell Us About Consciousness | Michael Pollan

Essentials: Optimal Protocols to Build Strength & Grow Muscles | Dr. Andy Galpin

Essentials: Optimal Protocols to Build Strength & Grow Muscles | Dr. Andy Galpin

Best Tools for Gut Health & Weight Loss | Dr. Chris Thompson

Best Tools for Gut Health & Weight Loss | Dr. Chris Thompson

Essentials: How to Assess & Improve All Aspects of Your Fitness | Dr. Andy Galpin

Essentials: How to Assess & Improve All Aspects of Your Fitness | Dr. Andy Galpin

The Art of True Happiness | Dr. Arthur Brooks

The Art of True Happiness | Dr. Arthur Brooks

Get more out of YouTube videos.

High quality summaries for YouTube videos. Accurate transcripts to search & find moments. Powered by ChatGPT & Claude AI.