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Genes & the Inheritance of Memories Across Generations | Dr. Oded Rechavi

In this episode my guest is Oded Rechavi, Ph.D., professor of neurobiology at Tel Aviv University and expert in how genes are inherited, how experiences shape genes and, remarkably, how some memories of experiences can be passed via genes to offspring. We discuss his research challenging long-held tenets of genetic inheritance and the relevance of those findings to understanding key biological and psychological processes including metabolism, stress and trauma. He describes the history of the scientific exploration of the “heritability of acquired traits” and how epigenetics and RNA biology can account for the passage of certain experience-based memories. He discusses the importance of model organisms in scientific research and describes his work on how stressors and memories can be passed through small RNA molecules to multiple generations of offspring in ways that meaningfully affect their behavior. Nature vs. nurture is a commonly debated theme; Dr. Rechavi’s work represents a fundamental shift in our understanding of that debate as well as genetic inheritance, brain function and evolution. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman HVMN: https://hvmn.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://www.insidetracker.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Huberman Lab Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Dr. Rechavi Academic Profile: https://en-lifesci.tau.ac.il/profile/odedrech_66 Lab Website: https://www.odedrechavilab.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/OdedRechavi TEDx Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/oded_rechavi_transgenerational_biology?language=en Articles Neuronal Small RNAs Control Behavior Transgenerationally: https://bit.ly/2HZxrzO Transgenerational Inheritance of an Acquired Small RNA-Based Antiviral Response in C. elegans: https://bit.ly/41xRf47 Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Oded Rechavi 00:02:08 Sponsors: ROKA, HVMN, Eight Sleep 00:06:04 DNA, RNA, Protein; Somatic vs. Germ Cells 00:14:36 Lamarckian Evolution, Inheritance of Acquired Traits 00:22:54 Paul Kammerer & Toad Morphology 00:28:52 AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:30:06 James McConnell & Memory Transfer 00:37:31 Weismann Barrier; Epigenetics 00:45:13 Epigenetic Reprogramming; Imprinted Genes 00:50:43 Nature vs. Nurture; Epigenetics & Offspring 00:59:06 Generational Epigenetic Inheritance 01:09:03 Sponsor: InsideTracker 01:10:20 Model Organisms, C. elegans 01:21:50 C. elegans & Inheritance of Acquired Traits, Small RNAs 01:26:02 RNA Interference, C. elegans & Virus Immunity 01:34:13 RNA Amplification, Multi-Generational Effects 01:38:41 Response Duration & Environment 01:47:50 Generational Memory Transmission, RNA 01:59:36 Germ Cells & Behavior; Body Cues 02:04:48 Transmission of Sexual Choice 02:11:22 Fertility & Human Disease; 3-Parent In Vitro Fertilization (IVF); RNA Testing 02:17:56 Deliberate Cold Exposure, Learning & Memory 02:29:26 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter The Huberman Lab podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.

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Feb 26, 20232h 32mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Can Experiences Rewrite Inheritance? Worm Studies Challenge Genetic Dogma

  1. Andrew Huberman interviews neurobiologist Dr. Oded Rechavi about how experiences can alter biological inheritance, challenging the classic separation between genes and environment. Using the tiny worm C. elegans, Rechavi’s lab shows that RNA molecules can carry information about viral exposure, starvation, temperature stress, and even brain activity across multiple generations. They contrast rock‑solid worm and plant data with far more ambiguous and controversial evidence in mammals and humans, including trauma and nutrition effects across generations. The conversation also traces the history, scandals, and politics around “Lamarckian” ideas, and explores how these findings might eventually inform diagnostics, fertility, and even memory research in humans.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Inheritance is more than DNA sequence; RNA and epigenetic marks can carry information across generations.

Classically, inheritance was thought to be purely genetic—changes must occur in DNA sequence in germ cells (sperm/egg) to affect offspring. Rechavi explains epigenetics as inheritance of traits across cell divisions or generations without DNA sequence change, often via DNA/histone modifications or RNA. In C. elegans, small RNAs generated in response to viruses, starvation, or temperature stress are amplified and passed to descendants, altering their physiology and behavior for several generations.

Two major “barriers” make epigenetic inheritance in humans difficult but not impossible.

The Weismann barrier separates somatic cells (body) from germ cells (sperm/egg), theoretically preventing experiences (like learning architecture or lifting weights) from changing heritable material. Epigenetic reprogramming then erases most DNA/histone modifications in germ cells and early embryos, restoring a mostly “clean” slate. Rechavi notes that in mammals about 90% of such marks are erased, but a meaningful minority persists (e.g., imprinting), leaving a narrow but real channel for epigenetic information to cross generations.

In worms, inherited antiviral immunity via small RNAs is a clear, reproducible example of acquired traits passing to offspring.

C. elegans lacks adaptive immune cells but uses small RNAs to destroy viral genomes. Rechavi infected worms with a fluorescent virus; parents cleared the virus and produced antiviral small RNAs. He then engineered descendants that *cannot* make small RNAs themselves. Those offspring still resisted the virus for multiple generations, proving they inherited functional antiviral RNAs made by their parents. A worm‑specific RNA amplification machinery (RNA‑dependent RNA polymerase) prevents this signal from being diluted out across generations.

Transgenerational effects in mammals are real at the phenotype level, but mechanisms (and specificity) remain murky.

Epidemiological studies of famine (Dutch Hunger Winter, China, Russia) show that children and sometimes grandchildren of starved pregnant women have altered birthweight, glucose tolerance, and risk of metabolic/neurological disease. Rodent work shows paternal stress or drug exposure can affect stress responses or drug tolerance in offspring. However, disentangling direct exposure (e.g., fetus and its germ cells in utero), environment, and true germline epigenetic mechanisms is extremely difficult; large, tightly controlled, IVF‑based studies are only just emerging.

Brain activity can influence germ cells and offspring behavior in worms through small RNAs, without translating “synapse-level” memories.

Rechavi’s lab altered small-RNA production *only in the worm brain*. Descendants (whose own brains were genetically normal) showed altered foraging behavior for three generations. Mechanistically, brain-derived small RNAs changed expression of a germline gene (SAGE-2); germ cells then altered development/physiology such that behavior shifted. This bypasses the seemingly impossible problem of converting detailed synaptic wiring patterns into heritable molecular code but shows that *brain state* can still write into germline biology.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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People really want to believe in inheritance of acquired traits because it gives your life meaning—if you can change your biology and that of your kids by what you do.

Oded Rechavi

If I learn architecture, the information is encoded in my brain, and since my brain cells can’t transfer information to the sperm and the egg, the brain shouldn’t be able to transfer that to the next generation.

Oded Rechavi

In C. elegans we now have very obvious and clear‑cut proof that there is inheritance of acquired traits. I don’t think anyone in the epigenetic field argues against it.

Oded Rechavi

The secret of these worms is that they have a machinery for amplifying small RNAs in every generation… this is what keeps the signal going and prevents dilution.

Oded Rechavi

None of our listeners’ kids will remember this conversation. No way. It’s impossible… unless they’re listening with them.

Oded Rechavi

Basics of DNA, RNA, genes, chromosomes, and epigeneticsWeismann barrier and why inheritance of acquired traits is controversialHistorical frauds and disasters in “Lamarckian” research (Kammerer, Lysenko, McConnell)Small RNAs, RNA interference, and transgenerational inheritance in C. elegansEpigenetic reprogramming and imprinting in mammals and humansStress, nutrition, drugs, and potential transgenerational effects in mammalsBrain-to-germline communication, memory, and state-dependent inheritance

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