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Harnessing Passion, Drive & Persistence for Lifelong Success | Tony Hawk

In this episode, my guest is Tony Hawk, the legendary and pioneering professional skateboarder, video game and skateboard industry entrepreneur and founder of the Skatepark Project, whose philanthropic mission is to help underserved communities create safe and inclusive public skateparks for all youth. We discuss his career, how he helped popularize and evolve the sport of skateboarding and his role as an ambassador for skateboard culture. We also discuss where he derives his intrinsic drive, how he sets and evolves goals and how he has made remarkable and continual progress throughout his career. We also discuss Tony’s ability to overcome what would otherwise be career-ending injuries. For anyone seeking to find or pursue their passion and make lifelong progress while serving the larger world, this episode with Tony Hawk ought to be of deep interest. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Huberman Lab Social & Website Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Threads: https://www.threads.net/@hubermanlab Twitter: https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-huberman Website: https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter: https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Tony Hawk Website: https://tonyhawk.com Books: https://amzn.to/3qbNnIh RIDE channel: https://www.youtube.com/RIDEChannel Pro Skater Video Game: https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com Skatepark Project: https://skatepark.org Birdhouse: https://www.birdhouseskateboards.com Hawk vs Wolf Podcast: https://spoti.fi/3QfyaAH Hawk vs Wolf YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HawkvsWolf Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonyhawk Twitter: https://twitter.com/tonyhawk Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TonyHawk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tonyhawk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/tonyhawk Resources and References Tony Hawk 540 McTwist: https://youtu.be/c3zPjjsbHp4 Thrasher Magazine: https://www.thrashermagazine.com Steve Caballero: https://www.stevecaballero.com Stacey Peralta: https://www.instagram.com/peraltastacy Bones Brigade: https://bonesbrigade.com Christian Hosoi: https://www.instagram.com/christianhosoi Transworld magazine: https://www.skateboarding.com Mark Gonzales: https://skateboardinghalloffame.org/2020/04/mark-gonzales-2012 Tony Hawk X Games 2023: https://www.youtube.com/live/BRXeMX0TjOQ?feature=share Riley Hawk: https://youtu.be/wPCLJ7H6h-E Cara-Beth Burnside: https://www.instagram.com/carabethburnside Reese Nelson: https://www.instagram.com/reese__nelson Andrew Reynolds: https://www.instagram.com/andrewreynolds Mike McGill: https://skateboardinghalloffame.org/2020/04/mike-mcgill-2017 Mike Blabac: https://www.blabacphoto.com Mike Blabac Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blabacphoto Stevie Willams: https://www.instagram.com/steviewilliams Danny Way: https://www.instagram.com/dannyway Jeremy Klein: https://youtu.be/7-AJAQ-AZ3s Steve Berra: https://theberrics.com Ken Block: https://www.43i.org Ken Block Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kblock43 Lizzie Armanto: https://www.instagram.com/lizziearmanto Sky Brown: https://www.instagram.com/skybrown Pattie Hoffman: https://skateboardinghalloffame.org/2020/04/patti-hoffman-2018 Elissa Steamer: https://www.instagram.com/elissa_steamer Lyn-z Pastrana 540: https://youtu.be/0SDJRSz7fA4 Rodney Mullen: https://www.instagram.com/rodneymullen Timestamps 00:00:00 Tony Hawk 00:03:16 Sponsors: LMNT & ROKA 00:05:55 Childhood & Self-Concept 00:11:08 Early Skateboarding & Skateparks 00:16:58 Adolescence, Skateboarding 00:23:10 Turning Professional, The Bones Brigade 00:34:22 Sponsor: AG1 00:35:27 Trick Development & Evolution 00:40:33 Visualization, Dreaming 00:47:09 “Feeling” While Skateboarding 00:51:15 Drive & Discipline; Injuries 00:58:46 Injury Recovery Practices 01:05:46 Sponsor: InsideTracker 01:06:52 Healthy Life Practices & Skateboarding 01:15:03 Video Game Development 01:23:00 Financial Investments, Birdhouse 01:30:16 Professionalism; Hobbies 01:35:43 Kids, Parents & Skateboarding 01:44:15 Music; High School 01:49:28 Females in Skateboarding 01:56:04 Inspiration, Kids, Bones Brigade 02:01:18 Memorabilia, Autographs 02:05:50 Skatepark Project 02:08:14 Future Goals & Aspirations 02:13:08 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com Disclaimer: https://hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

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Jul 30, 20232h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Tony Hawk Reveals How Relentless Progress Fuels Lifelong Skateboarding Mastery

  1. Andrew Huberman interviews Tony Hawk about the psychology, science, and lived experience behind a 40+ year career at the top of skateboarding. Hawk describes how obsession, late physical development, and relentless incremental progress shaped his path from bullied “nerd” to global icon. They dissect his return from a catastrophic femur break—including a forced surgical redo and disciplined recovery—to finally landing the same 540 that caused the injury. Throughout, Hawk emphasizes intrinsic motivation, deliberate practice, supportive but imperfect family dynamics, and his commitment to expanding skateboarding’s culture and infrastructure via his Skatepark Project foundation.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Intrinsic obsession beats natural talent over the long run.

Hawk emphasizes he was not a natural; as a kid he was small, awkward, and often mocked for his unconventional “circus” tricks. What differentiated him was an almost compulsive drive to keep learning new maneuvers, often alone at empty parks or ramps. He’s seen many “naturals” stall out because they lacked discipline and obsession, while driven kids with sloppy style—like Andrew Reynolds early on—became great through relentless effort.

Break complex skills into known components, then recombine systematically.

For modern, hyper‑technical tricks, Hawk almost never “just hucks it.” He identifies that every new move is built from pieces he already knows: the entry, the body/board motion, and the landing, each of which he has done in some other context. Progress comes from methodically trying to sequence these parts together, hundreds of times, until one attempt—thanks to a tiny, often unconscious adjustment—finally clicks.

Use small, early wins as a lifetime motivational template.

Hawk describes the first time he landed a simple backside varial below coping at Oasis Skatepark as the most important “buzz” of his career. Doing something he’d never seen anyone else do, purely for its own sake and with no audience, created a specific internal feeling he has chased ever since. That early imprint of self‑generated progress has powered decades of creativity and resilience far more than contests or external rewards.

Recovery from major injury demands both humility and personal standards.

After breaking his femur on a low‑speed McTwist attempt, Hawk ignored medical timelines, pushed too early, and unknowingly created a non‑union fracture—his femur halves were drifting apart with each session. A specialist eventually had to remove the hardware and fully reset the bone, followed by two months of near total rest he finally honored. In parallel, he quietly held himself to a non‑negotiable standard: he *had* to come back and land that 540 again, even though he can’t fully rationalize why.

Ritual, music, and environment can be engineered to unlock high‑risk performance.

For his comeback 540, Hawk treated the attempt like a mission: he adjusted diet, stopped drinking, and used sessions solely to reacquire the spin and spotting without intent to land. He then curated a very specific high‑energy playlist (New Order, Nine Inch Nails, Gang of Four, Operation Ivy, Prodigy) that he associates with peak skating moments, and chose to attempt the make in front of only his wife. The song “Climbatize” by The Prodigy was playing when he finally rode away.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If you saw me skate when I first started, there’s no way you’d think I was natural or had any future in it.

Tony Hawk

That first backside varial below coping—I’ve been chasing that exact feeling ever since.

Tony Hawk

I fucked around and found out. I did a McTwist with no speed like I was still 20—and broke my femur.

Tony Hawk

I hate that it means that much to me, but I had to get back to 540s. I just had to do it.

Tony Hawk

Everything I’m doing now is kind of just gravy. I can’t believe I still ride my skateboard as a career at 55.

Tony Hawk

Early life, identity, and finding skateboardingSkill progression, trick creation, and mental approach to riskFame, money, and long-term career decisionsCatastrophic femur fracture, mismanaged recovery, and second surgeryMusic, visualization, and psychological tools for performanceFamily, parenting, and multi‑generation skate culturePhilanthropy, Olympic era, and the future of skateboarding (inclusivity, especially women)

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