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How to Find & Be a Great Romantic Partner | Lori Gottlieb

My guest is Lori Gottlieb, MFT, a psychotherapist and bestselling author who specializes in helping people build strong relationships by first understanding themselves and the stories they’ve internalized about themselves and others. We explore how our parents, wounds and unique strengths—both consciously and unconsciously—influence our partner choices and how we show up in relationships, as well as how to avoid and break free from destructive patterns. We also discuss the impact of texting, social media and dating apps on partnership. Lori shares which signals to follow to become the best romantic partner possible and how to make choices that lead to greater vitality, happiness and fulfillment in all areas of life. Read the episode show notes: https://go.hubermanlab.com/ExnS7v1 We want to hear from you. Take our quick survey to help improve Huberman Lab: https://go.hubermanlab.com/podtrac-survey *Thank you to our sponsors* AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Helix Sleep: https://helixsleep.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman David Protein: https://davidprotein.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman *Lori Gottlieb* Website: https://lorigottlieb.com Therapy services: https://lorigottlieb.com/services Maybe You Should Talk to Someone (book): https://amzn.to/4clZO7S Other books: https://amzn.to/44fOCYt Dear Therapists (podcast): https://lorigottlieb.com/podcast Ask the Therapist (The New York Times): https://www.nytimes.com/column/ask-the-therapist Dear Therapist (The Atlantic): https://www.theatlantic.com/projects/dear-therapist/ TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/lori_gottlieb_how_changing_your_story_can_change_your_life X: https://x.com/LoriGottlieb Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GottliebLori Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lorigottlieb_author *Timestamps* 00:00:00 Dr. Lori Gottlieb 00:02:01 Patient & First Question; Talked Out of Feelings 00:06:15 Self-Regulation vs Co-Regulation, Tool: Pause & Perspective 00:10:04 Sponsors: Helix Sleep & BetterHelp 00:12:36 Relationships, Childhood & Unfinished Business 00:17:13 Unconscious Mind, Hurtful Parent & Familiarity, Role of Therapy 00:26:35 Excitement & Chaos, Cherophobia; Storytelling, First Date & Sparks? 00:36:27 Tool: Awareness of Death & Living Fully; Vitality; Fear vs Acceptance 00:47:27 Sponsors: AG1 & David Protein 00:50:35 Activate vs Energize; Tool: Technology, Numbness & Overwhelm 00:54:50 Numb or Calm?, Gender Stereotypes, Tool: Mentalizing 01:00:51 Feelings, Projective Identification, Tool: Owning Your Feelings 01:03:25 React vs Respond; Space, Tool: Face-to-Face Conversation vs Text 01:10:16 Behavioral Change, 5 Steps of Change, Tool: Self-Compassion & Accountability 01:15:38 Sponsor: LMNT 01:16:54 Deadlines & Rules; Idiot vs Wise Compassion, No Drama & Assumptions 01:26:27 Silent Treatment, Crying & Manipulation, Shame vs Guilt, Self-Preservation 01:33:01 Self-Reflection, Individual & Couples Therapy, Transference; Agency 01:38:56 Texting, Conflicts, Breakups, Pain Hierarchy, Tool: Move Forward 01:46:42 Relationship Breakups, Daily World & Loss 01:53:30 Bank of Goodwill; Talking About Partner, Focus, Comparison 02:01:13 Infidelity, What If vs What Is, Attention & Appreciation 02:04:56 Gut Instinct, Change Behavior, Danger, Productive vs Unproductive Anxiety 02:15:27 Knowing Oneself, Relationships, Flexibility, Shared History 02:20:30 Romantic Relationships & Teens, Social Media, Privacy 02:27:09 Online Apps & Choices, Maximizers vs Satisficers, Tool: Identify Your Weakness 02:33:09 Fixing Issues Early, Tool: Self vs Partner Lists & Character Qualities 02:41:51 Feeling Toward Partner, Calm, Content; Tool: Operating Instructions 02:46:48 Help-Rejecting Complainers; Relationships, Love & Core Wounds 02:51:22 Stories & Unreliable Narrators, Editing, Tool: 5 Senses 02:59:04 Young Men, Masculinity, Confusion 03:07:03 Grief, Making Sense of Loss 03:09:54 Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Workbook; Ask The Therapist, Choosing a Bigger Life 03:20:26 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter #HubermanLab #Psychology #Relationships Disclaimer & Disclosures: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Andrew HubermanhostLori Gottliebguest
Apr 6, 20253h 22mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rewriting Love Stories: Lori Gottlieb On Choosing Healthy Relationships

  1. Andrew Huberman and psychotherapist Lori Gottlieb explore how our internal narratives and early experiences shape whom we’re attracted to, how we behave in relationships, and why we often stay stuck in patterns that don’t serve us.
  2. They discuss emotional regulation, conflict repair, attraction to the wrong partners, fear of joy and change, and how technology and texting complicate modern dating and breakups.
  3. Gottlieb emphasizes learning to read our feelings as data, distinguish guilt from shame, and rewrite faulty stories about ourselves so we can make better choices and experience more vitality in life.
  4. Throughout, she offers concrete tools for communicating better, handling conflict, grieving breakups, and choosing partners based on how we feel in their presence rather than on rigid lists or familiar dysfunction.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Use your feelings as a compass, not something to suppress

From childhood many people are talked out of their feelings (“Don’t be sad,” “You’re too sensitive”), so they grow up seeing emotions as problems to eliminate. Gottlieb argues feelings are information—like a compass—that tell us where boundaries are violated, where something matters, or where change is needed. Instead of numbing out or instantly acting, ask, “What is this feeling trying to tell me?” and “How can I use it productively rather than discharge it on someone else?”

Pause conflict until at least one person is regulated

When both partners are emotionally “dysregulated,” arguments escalate and nothing good happens. Gottlieb suggests intentionally pausing: go for a walk, read, go to the gym, then agree on a specific time to revisit the issue. In the interim, instead of spinning blame stories, mentally tell the story from your partner’s perspective and look for even a small overlap of understanding. Return to the conversation only when at least one adult, regulated nervous system is “in the room.”

Recognize when you’re replaying unfinished childhood business

We tend to be unconsciously drawn to partners who resemble the parent (or caregiver) who hurt or neglected us—not because it feels good but because it feels familiar. This can look like repeatedly choosing drinkers, withdrawers, yellers, or avoidant people even if we promise to pick the ‘opposite.’ The unconscious fantasy is, “I’ll win this time; I’ll get love from this kind of person.” Therapy helps you see that pull, grieve what you didn’t get, and choose partners for healthy reasons instead of unfinished business.

Chemistry can be a red flag; give “calm” people a second date

What we call “instant chemistry” can actually be anxiety or the familiar charge of old wounds, not necessarily compatibility. Longitudinal research shows many happy couples did *not* report fireworks on the first date at the time; they later rewrote the story. Gottlieb recommends using a different filter: after a date, ask “Did I feel basically good and calm around this person?” If yes, see them again—even without butterflies—rather than endlessly optimizing on apps for a perfect ‘spark’ that often predicts volatility.

Invite vitality by facing mortality and taking smart risks

Gottlieb distinguishes fear of death from fear of “not having lived.” Keeping death awareness “on your shoulder” can push you toward more intentional choices rather than clinging to the “certainty of misery” you know. The opposite of depression isn’t happiness, she says; it’s vitality. Often the *safest* thing long term is to take a risk—ending a dead relationship, changing careers, trying something meaningful—rather than staying in familiar stagnation that leads to regret.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Feelings are all positive because they're like a compass. They tell us what direction to go in, if we can access them.

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If it's hysterical, it's historical.

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The opposite of depression is not happiness, it's vitality.

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We don’t get to order up our partners à la carte.

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Sometimes the safest thing you can do is to take a risk.

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Emotional regulation and co-regulation in relationshipsChildhood origins of attraction and repeated unhealthy patternsFear of joy, uncertainty, and resistance to changeModern dating dynamics: apps, texting, and social mediaBreakups, grief, and moving forward after lossNarratives, shame vs. guilt, and rewriting personal storiesPractical tools for conflict, boundaries, and behavioral change

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