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Science of Mindsets for Health & Performance | Dr. Alia Crum

My guest is Dr. Alia Crum, Associate Professor (tenured) of Psychology at Stanford University and Director of the Stanford Mind & Body Lab.

Andrew HubermanhostAlia Crumguest
Jan 23, 20221h 41mWatch on YouTube

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

How Mindsets Rewire Stress, Food, Exercise And Medical Treatment Effects

  1. Dr. Andrew Huberman and Dr. Alia Crum explore how core beliefs—or mindsets—about stress, food, exercise, and medical treatments directly shape motivation, behavior, and even measurable physiology. Drawing on landmark studies, Crum shows that what we think about a milkshake, a work shift, or a medication can alter hormones like ghrelin and DHEA, blood pressure, immune markers, and performance under stress. They distinguish placebo/nocebo from broader “belief effects,” arguing mindsets act as a portal between conscious interpretations and subconscious bodily responses. The conversation concludes with practical frameworks for adopting more adaptive mindsets and a call to consciously design healthier cultural narratives around health and performance.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Mindsets Are Core Assumptions That Steer Attention, Motivation, And Physiology

Crum defines mindsets as core beliefs about a domain (e.g., stress, intelligence, food) that orient expectations, explanations, and goals. They simplify complex reality, acting like default settings that shape what we notice, how we interpret events, and what actions feel possible or worthwhile. Critically, these assumptions don’t just influence behavior; they can modulate physiological systems, from hormones to immune responses.

What You Believe About Food Changes Your Hormonal Response To Eating

In the milkshake study, participants drank the same ~300-calorie shake on two occasions but were told once that it was an indulgent 620-calorie shake and once that it was a light, sensible diet shake. When they believed it was indulgent, their ghrelin (the “hunger hormone”) dropped threefold more, mimicking the response to having eaten more food. This suggests that constantly thinking in terms of deprivation or “dieting” can leave you physiologically hungrier, whereas feeling you’ve eaten enough and indulgently can promote satiety and potentially a more favorable metabolic response, even when objective calories are the same.

Feeling You ‘Get Enough’ Exercise Can Improve Health Independently Of Activity Levels

In the hotel housekeepers study, women performing physically demanding cleaning work were objectively exceeding Surgeon General exercise guidelines but mostly believed they weren't exercising. Teaching half of them that their work met exercise guidelines—without changing their behavior—led, over four weeks, to weight loss, a ~10-point drop in systolic blood pressure, and improved self-perceptions. Large-scale correlational work further shows that merely believing you get less exercise than others predicts higher mortality risk, even after controlling for actual activity. The sense of “enoughness” matters.

Viewing Stress As Enhancing Changes How You Respond And Perform Under Pressure

Most people hold a ‘stress-is-debilitating’ mindset due to public health and cultural messaging, but the research literature shows stress responses can narrow focus, accelerate processing, and trigger physiological “toughening.” In corporate field experiments, brief video interventions framing stress as potentially enhancing—rather than uniformly harmful—shifted employees’ stress mindsets, reduced physical symptoms (e.g., backache, insomnia, racing heart), and improved self-rated performance during layoffs. Among Navy SEAL trainees, a more stress-is-enhancing mindset predicted greater likelihood of completing BUD/S, faster obstacle course times, and better peer ratings.

Beliefs About Side Effects And Symptoms Can Worsen Or Improve Treatment Outcomes

Nocebo effects occur when negative expectations generate or amplify negative symptoms. Telling patients about long side-effect lists can increase the incidence and salience of those symptoms—sometimes via real physiology, sometimes by shifting attention and attribution. Conversely, in a peanut-allergy desensitization trial, framing side effects as signs the body is learning and getting stronger reduced anxiety, lessened symptoms at higher doses, and even improved immunological markers of tolerance. How clinicians explain side effects can change both experience and efficacy of treatment.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Mindsets are core beliefs or assumptions that we have about a domain or category of things that orient us to a particular set of expectations, explanations, and goals.

— Alia Crum

The total effect of anything you do or consume is a combined product of what you’re actually doing and what you think about what you’re doing.

— Alia Crum

We only stress about things we care about. Stress is the other side of the coin of things we value.

— Alia Crum

The question isn’t, ‘Is this mindset right or wrong?’ The question is, ‘Is it helpful or harmful?’

— Alia Crum

We have done so little with the human resource—our own brains—relative to what’s possible.

— Alia Crum

Read the available transcript
Definition and function of mindsetsMindsets and physiology: food, hunger hormones, and metabolismExercise and activity mindsets, performance, and health outcomesStress mindsets: debilitating vs. enhancing and their consequencesPlacebo, nocebo, and belief effects in medicine and side effectsCultural and social origins of health-related mindsets (media, influencers, upbringing)Practical frameworks to recognize, shift, and teach adaptive mindsets

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