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Using Temperature for Performance, Brain & Body Health | Dr. Craig Heller

In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Craig Heller, Professor of Biology at Stanford University and world expert on the science of temperature regulation. We discuss how the body and brain maintain temperature under different conditions and how almost everyone uses the wrong approach to cool off or heat up. Dr. Heller teaches us the best ways and, in doing so, explains how to offset hyperthermia and hypothermia. He also explains how we can use the precise timing and location of cooling on our body to greatly enhance endurance and weight training performance. He describes how cooling technology discovered and engineered in his laboratory has led to a tripling of anaerobic (weight training) performance and allowed endurance athletes to run farther and faster as well as to eliminate delayed onset muscle soreness. Dr. Heller explains how heat impairs muscular and mental performance and how to cool the brain to reduce inflammation and enhance sleep and cognition. We discuss how anyone can apply these principles for themselves, even their dogs! Our conversation includes many practical tools and mechanistic science. For an up-to-date list of our current sponsors, please visit our website: https://www.hubermanlab.com/sponsors. Previous sponsors mentioned in this podcast episode may no longer be affiliated with us. Social: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter - https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab Website - https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter - https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Links: Dr. Heller's Website - https://profiles.stanford.edu/h-craig-heller CoolMitt Technology - https://www.coolmitt.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introducing Dr. Craig Heller, Physiology & Performance 00:02:00 Sponsors: Roka, Inside Tracker, Athletic Greens 00:06:45 Cold Showers, Ice Baths, Cryotherapy 00:10:45 Boundary Layers 00:11:55 Cooling Before Aerobic Activity to Enhance Performance 00:14:45 Anaerobic Activity Locally Increases Muscle Heat 00:16:45 Temperature Gates Our Energy Use 00:19:00 Local Versus Systemic Fatigue: Heat Is Why We Fail 00:22:10 Cooling Off: Most Methods are Counterproductive 00:26:43 Exercise-Induced Brain Fog 00:27:45 Hyperthermia 00:31:50 Best Body Sites for Cooling: Palms, Foot Pads, Upper Face 00:38:00 Cooling Your Brain via The Upper Face; Concussion 00:41:25 Extraordinary (Tripling!) Performance by Cooling the Palms 00:45:35 Enhancing Recovery, Eliminating Soreness w/Intra-workout Cooling 00:50:00 Multiple Sclerosis: Heat Sensitivity & Amelioration with Cooling 00:51:00 Enhancing Endurance with Proper Cooling 00:53:00 Cool Mitt, Ice-Cold Is Too Cold, 3 Minutes Cooling 00:58:20 How You Can Use Palmer Cooling to Enhance Performance 01:01:15 Radiation, Convection, Heat-Transfer, Role of Surface Area 01:04:40 Hypothermia Story, Ideal Re-Heating Strategy 01:11:40 Paw-lmer Cooling for Dog Health & Performance 01:12:45 Warming Up, & Varying Temperature Around the Body 01:17:35 Cooling-Enhanced Performance Is Permanent 01:19:55 Anabolic Steroids versus Palmer Cooling 01:24:00 Female Athletic Performance 01:25:18 Shivering & Cold, Metabolism 01:26:55 Studies of Bears & Hibernation, Brown Fat 01:31:10 Brown Fat Distribution & Activation In Humans 01:34:18 Brain Freeze, Ice Headache: Blood Pressure, Headache 01:37:50 Fidgeters, Non-Exercise Induced Thermogenesis 01:39:44 How Pre-Workout Drinks, & Caffeine May Inhibit Performance 01:43:42 Sleep, Cold, Warm Baths, Screens, & Socks 01:48:44 Synthesis 01:49:30 Supporting the Podcast & Scientific Research Please note that The Huberman Lab Podcast is distinct from Dr. Huberman's teaching and research roles at Stanford University School of Medicine. The information provided in this show is not medical advice, nor should it be taken or applied as a replacement for medical advice. The Huberman Lab Podcast, its employees, guests and affiliates assume no liability for the application of the information discussed.

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Oct 3, 20211h 51mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Cool Your Hands, Boost Performance: Dr. Heller’s Temperature Revolution Explained

  1. Dr. Andrew Huberman interviews Stanford physiologist Dr. Craig Heller on how body temperature regulation profoundly impacts physical and cognitive performance, recovery, and safety.
  2. Heller explains why traditional cooling strategies (cold towels on neck/head, ice vests, ice baths) are often ineffective or counterproductive, and why specialized ‘heat loss portals’ in the palms, soles, and upper face are the real keys.
  3. Using properly controlled palmar (glabrous skin) cooling, his lab has repeatedly shown dramatic increases in work volume (often 2–3x) and endurance, with minimal delayed onset muscle soreness.
  4. They also explore implications for sport, military, medical recovery, sleep, hypothermia/hyperthermia treatment, and misconceptions about brown fat, shivering, and energy drinks.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Use glabrous skin (palms, soles, upper face) as primary heat-loss portals for performance and safety.

Special arterio-venous anastomoses (AVAs) under hairless skin in the palms, soles, and upper face shunt large volumes of blood directly from arteries to veins, enabling rapid heat exchange. Cooling these areas with moderately cool (not ice-cold) surfaces can double endurance in heat and dramatically extend work volume in resistance training, while heating them can rapidly re-warm hypothermic individuals. In contrast, most of the hairy body surface is relatively well insulated and much less efficient for active heat transfer.

Avoid ice-cold water or packs on hands and portals; use cool, not freezing, temperatures to prevent vasoconstriction.

Very cold stimuli (like ice water or frozen bottles held continuously) trigger reflex vasoconstriction in the AVAs, effectively shutting down the very heat-loss pathways you're trying to exploit. Heller’s lab found optimal performance gains with cooling surfaces that feel merely ‘cool,’ not painfully cold; in practice, the most effective heat extraction happens within the first 2–3 minutes before vasoconstriction kicks in. A simple self-check: if your palm feels cold to another person after cooling, you likely overcooled and constricted the vessels.

Pre-cooling before aerobic efforts and intermittent cooling between anaerobic sets can dramatically enhance performance.

Lowering core temperature slightly before endurance efforts (e.g., cool shower, brief portal cooling after warm-up) increases the body’s ‘heat sink’ capacity so you can run or work longer before temperature becomes limiting. For anaerobic work like dips, push-ups, or squats, localized muscle temperature can skyrocket while blood flow cannot increase proportionally, risking ‘cooking’ the muscle and enzyme shutdown (e.g., temperature-sensitive pyruvate kinase). In controlled experiments, 2–3 minutes of palm cooling between sets led to doubling or tripling total work volume over weeks, with significant performance gains retained even when cooling was later removed.

Common cooling practices (cold towels on neck, torso ice vests, brief ice baths) can be misleading or counterproductive.

Cooling the neck, head, or torso strongly stimulates skin temperature receptors that feed into the hypothalamic ‘thermostat,’ making you *feel* cooler while core temperature may continue rising. In field studies, cooling standard ‘artery zones’ (neck, armpits, groin) with cold packs was only half as effective at reducing core temperature as placing the same packs on the glabrous skin portals (palms, soles, upper face. Furthermore, cooling the neck can protect the brain transiently but may also trick athletes into resuming hard efforts while still dangerously hot internally.

Proper cooling can greatly reduce delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) despite much higher training loads.

In multiple experiments, subjects who used palmar cooling between heavy sets vastly exceeded their normal training capacities (e.g., Stanford students surpassing 800 push-ups in one session, an NFL tight end tripling his dip volume to ~300 in a month). Despite acute overreaching, those using cooling reported minimal delayed onset muscle soreness compared to non-cooled controls doing lower volume. This suggests that strategically limiting overheating, rather than total load per se, plays a large role in muscle damage and perceived soreness.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You literally have the capacity to cook your muscles.

Dr. Craig Heller

Why would you endanger your health with steroids when such an ineffective tool gives you maybe one percent per week, and we’re seeing three hundred percent in a month with cooling?

Dr. Craig Heller

You can feel great and have a dangerously hyperthermic temperature.

Dr. Craig Heller

If your car is overheating and you have a hose, you don’t spray the tubes—you spray the radiator. The palms, soles, and face are your radiators.

Dr. Craig Heller

We didn’t discover these blood vessels; they’re in Gray’s Anatomy. Nobody knew what they were for.

Dr. Craig Heller

Human thermoregulation and the brain’s temperature ‘thermostat’Glabrous skin heat-loss portals (palms, soles, upper face) and AVAsPerformance enhancement and recovery via controlled palmar coolingDangers and misconceptions of common cooling/heating methodsHyperthermia, hypothermia, and clinical temperature managementBrown fat, shivering, NEAT, and metabolic heat productionTemperature, circadian rhythms, and sleep optimization

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