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What usually holds you back from starting a conversation? Jay sits down with behavioral researcher and bestselling author Vanessa Van Edwards for a powerful conversation that blends science, honesty, and so many surprising moments. Vanessa, who refers to herself as a “recovering awkward person,” shares how her biggest social struggles became the driving force behind her mission to crack the code on human connection. Together, Jay and Vanessa dive into the fascinating world of charisma, exploring the 97 cues, from eye contact to tone of voice, that quietly shape how we’re seen and understood. Vanessa breaks down why so many of us feel overlooked or underestimated—and introduces “signal amplification bias,” a concept that explains why the signals you think you’re sending might not be landing the way you expect. Vanessa shows us how confidence isn’t always something you’re born with but something you can build, with intention and awareness. The conversation goes even deeper as they unpack the tricky balance between warmth and competence, especially for women in the workplace, and how vulnerability isn’t a weakness, but often your greatest strength. They explore how to create those magic “me too” moments that form instant connections, spot the hidden red flags in communication, and let go of the need to be liked by everyone in order to be truly seen by the right people. Whether you struggle with social anxiety, want to level up your leadership presence, or are just tired of surface-level small talk, this episode is packed with practical tools and uplifting wisdom to help you connect with more authenticity and power. What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 00:51 From Awkward to Empowered: Overcoming Social Anxiety 02:43 How Do You Really Want People to See You? 06:44 Why Aren’t Your First Impressions Landing? 10:01 Why They’re Not Getting Your Signals (And What to Do About It) 13:33 Want to Be More Attractive? Try Being More Available 15:40 One Simple “Hey” That Can Spark a New Connection 19:16 Your Vibe Teaches People How to Treat You 22:06 Speak with Power: Unlock Your Full Vocal Power 23:47 3 Conversation Starters That Actually Work 29:49 Making Friends Doesn’t Have to Be Hard 31:17 Why Compliments Alone Don’t Build Connection 33:30 Break the Ice Without Sounding Like Everyone Else 38:36 Stop Trying to Be Interesting, Do This Instead 40:48 The Art of a Smooth and Respectful Exit 44:32 Use These Nonverbal Cues to Steer the Conversation 47:41 Spot Inauthentic Behavior Before It Costs You 54:28 Why People-Pleasing Feels Safer But Actually Holds You Back 57:48 How to Tell If Someone’s Lying (Without Saying a Word) 01:00:04 When Narcissists Feel Like the Most Charismatic People 01:03:46 Want to Really Get to Know Someone? Take a Road Trip 01:04:45 How Dopamine Makes You More Memorable 01:08:23 Every Answer Can Be a Gateway to Connection 01:10:51 How Asking Better Questions Inspires Growth 01:13:10 Discover Your Social Battery: Introvert, Extrovert, or Ambivert? 01:15:10 You Might Be an Ambivert and That’s a Superpower 01:19:07 The Two Ways Friendships Evolve Over Time 01:22:30 Choose Friends Who Inspire Awe 01:25:20 The Double Standard Faced by Highly Competent Women 01:33:09 Before You Make That Connection, Ask Yourself This 01:34:34 Life’s Too Short for Shallow Connections, Find Your People 01:36:29 Vanessa on Final Five Episode Resources https://www.instagram.com/jayshetty https://www.facebook.com/jayshetty/ https://x.com/jayshetty https://www.linkedin.com/in/shettyjay/ https://www.youtube.com/@JayShettyPodcast http://jayshetty.me https://www.scienceofpeople.com/ https://www.instagram.com/vvanedwards https://x.com/vvanedwards https://www.youtube.com/@Vvanedwards https://www.tiktok.com/@vvanedwards https://www.facebook.com/vvanedwards/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessavanedwards

Jay ShettyhostVanessa Van Edwardsguest
May 12, 20251h 42mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:43

    From “recovering awkward” to feeling underestimated: the real mission behind social skills

    Jay introduces Vanessa Van Edwards and frames the episode around subtle signaling in dating and work. Vanessa shares her core mission: helping people overcome awkwardness, self-doubt, and the painful experience of being underestimated despite having real ideas and potential.

    • Vanessa’s origin story: feeling awkward and misunderstood sparked her research
    • The deeper problem isn’t just confidence—it’s feeling underestimated
    • Communication skills as a learnable blueprint, not a personality trait
    • What changes when you can control body/voice/words intentionally
  2. 2:43 – 4:51

    Designing your “first impression word” (and why cues change how people treat you)

    Vanessa explains that step one is deciding how you want to be perceived—then reverse-engineering the signals that produce it. She introduces the idea of “first impression words” (current, bad-day, ideal) and why cues don’t just affect perception; they alter others’ behavior toward you.

    • Choose a current first-impression word and an ideal first-impression word
    • Add a “bad day” first-impression word to spot drift and triggers
    • Cues are bidirectional: they shape perception and the treatment you receive
    • Warmth, competence, and confidence can be intentionally signaled
  3. 4:51 – 7:17

    The hidden world of cues: 97 signals, resting faces, and perception loops

    Vanessa describes discovering and categorizing dozens of social signals after repeatedly misreading neutral faces as negative. They discuss the science behind neutral-face misinterpretation (and how your mood changes what you see), plus how cue cycles escalate or calm interactions.

    • Vanessa identified 97 cues across face, voice, posture, and gestures
    • Many people misread neutral expressions as negative (RBF science)
    • Your emotional baseline biases what you decode in others
    • Cue cycles: misreads can create defensiveness that triggers real negativity
  4. 7:17 – 9:34

    Your social triggers: people, places, and the environments that change your personality

    They expand the exercise to include triggers that create your ‘best self’ versus ‘worst self’ in social settings. Vanessa explains how awkwardness can show up as shutting down (small) or overcompensating (big), and why controlling environments is foundational.

    • Identify people who bring out your best vs. tight/rigid self
    • Awkwardness can present as collapsing inward or performing louder/bigger
    • Places matter: one-on-one vs. happy hour/nightclub energy costs
    • Control inputs (who/where) to improve outputs (how you show up)
  5. 9:34 – 12:39

    Dating reality check: “signal amplification bias” and why subtle flirting fails

    Jay shifts into dating scenarios: how to show interest without “giving it away.” Vanessa introduces signal amplification bias—people assume they’re being obvious when they aren’t—and shares research showing it can take a surprising number of flirtation signals before someone confidently approaches.

    • Signal amplification bias: you feel obvious, they barely notice
    • Research finding: ~29 signals in 10 minutes before an approach happens
    • Attractive women can be approached less if they don’t signal availability
    • Availability cues often matter more than outfit/appearance tweaks
  6. 12:39 – 16:16

    The availability toolkit: flirty glances, smiles, self-touch, scent—and the one-word opener

    Vanessa breaks down concrete “availability” behaviors: eye-contact patterns, smiling, and self-touch that can convey openness. She also explores how scent influences connection and introduces her lowest-pressure opener for anyone: a confident, grounded “Hey.”

    • Flirty glances: brief eye contact, away, back—repeat often
    • Chin-down/eyes-up gaze (classic ‘through the lashes’ look)
    • Self-touch signals (hair/neck/lips) and why scent can shape liking
    • The simplest availability move: walk by and say a confident ‘Hey’
  7. 16:16 – 23:55

    Speak with power: the 200-millisecond confidence test and finding your natural low range

    They explore how fast we judge confidence from voice—within 200 milliseconds—and why pitch rises with anxiety. Vanessa teaches a practical drill: finding the highest vs. lowest end of your natural range and speaking on the out-breath to access resonance without “faking.”

    • People judge confidence almost instantly from vocal tone
    • Anxiety tightens breath and lifts pitch; calm breath lowers it
    • Exercise: ‘hello’ at highest range vs. lowest range
    • Speak on the out-breath to relax vocal cords and increase resonance
  8. 23:55 – 31:17

    Conversation that actually connects: context cues, “me too” goals, and aggressively liking people

    After the opener, Vanessa offers a blueprint for building connection: use context cues to create fast “shared reality,” then aim for “me too” moments that build closeness. She adds a counterintuitive popularity insight: the most liked people are those who like the most people.

    • Use context cues: reference the shared situation (host/class/food)
    • Similarity attraction effect: ‘me too’ moments create bonding threads
    • Thread theory: each shared point strengthens connection
    • Popularity study: most liked people have the longest list of people they like
  9. 31:17 – 1:04:43

    Why compliments stall connection (and how to break scripted small talk)

    Jay challenges the default move—complimenting—and Vanessa explains why compliments often create discomfort, hierarchy, and conversational dead-ends. She then teaches ways to break predictable scripts by adding hooks, stories, and playful games like ‘guessing’ instead of answering directly.

    • Compliments can create distance and force awkward reciprocity
    • Better: compliment shared identity (‘I have those too’)
    • Prepare “hook” answers to common questions (avoid dead ends)
    • Use playful verbal games: ‘Guess’ siblings/origin to create energy
  10. 1:04:43 – 1:08:18

    Create dopamine to become memorable: stories, ‘exciting’ questions, and better workplace openers

    Vanessa connects conversation strategy to brain chemistry: novelty triggers dopamine, which increases motivation and memorability. She shares practical prompts—like ‘Working on anything exciting?’—and explains how any answer can open a deeper doorway to connection.

    • Novelty highlights new neural pathways and triggers dopamine
    • Dopamine increases memorability (names, ideas, impressions)
    • Collect and practice a ‘story toolbox’ for connection moments
    • Use better openers: ‘Working on anything exciting these days?’
  11. 1:08:18 – 1:13:13

    Workplace connection rituals: icebreakers, courage to break scripts, and leading better meetings

    They address the friction that can come from ‘better questions’ when people feel pressure to have impressive answers. Vanessa reframes it: breaking scripts requires courage, but it creates real connection—and leaders can build rituals like ‘tell me something good’ to reshape team culture.

    • Acknowledge the social courage required to break scripts
    • If someone freezes, ‘take the ball back’ and share your own answer
    • Team ritual: start meetings with ‘tell me something good’
    • Be the person who brings work-appropriate icebreakers consistently
  12. 1:13:13 – 1:19:07

    Know your social battery: introvert vs extrovert vs ambivert (and why ambiversion is a superpower)

    Vanessa explains why most people are ambiverts and how that affects work dynamics, brainstorming, and energy management. She highlights the ambivert’s advantage—adaptability—and the downside: ambivalence that keeps you stuck in draining ‘meh’ relationships.

    • Most people are ambiverts; true extremes are rarer
    • Introverts: need prep time; think best alone (don’t spring brainstorms)
    • Extroverts: process through people on both good and bad days
    • Ambiverts: can ‘dial up’ socially but require recharge and clear boundaries
  13. 1:19:07 – 1:25:19

    Friendships, dating, and awe: choosing people who fit your life now (not just your history)

    They explore modern friendship changes—growing together vs. growing apart—and why time value shifts what ‘fun’ means. Vanessa introduces “awe” as a powerful filter: seek relationships where you’re genuinely inspired, not just checking boxes or chasing universal likability.

    • Friendships evolve via growing together or growing apart—both are growth
    • As time becomes more valuable, shallow connection feels costlier
    • Awe as a relationship signal: inspired by kindness, drive, warmth, values
    • Burn the checklist mentality; prioritize inspiration and value-respect
  14. 1:25:19 – 1:36:26

    Women at work and the warmth–competence tightrope (plus using AI as a communication coach)

    Jay raises the double standard women face: directness labeled as ‘difficult’ and warmth labeled as ‘not serious.’ Vanessa anchors the solution in warmth + competence signaling and suggests using AI to audit LinkedIn profiles and emails for imbalance that can trigger suspicion or dismissal.

    • Women face a narrow ‘valley’ between ‘too soft’ and ‘too bossy’
    • Warmth and competence drive most judgments—and must be balanced
    • Email/Slack/LinkedIn cues matter (emojis, exclamation, numbers, formality)
    • Tactical exercise: use AI to assess and rewrite for warmth + competence
  15. 1:36:26 – 1:42:54

    Ethics, confidence, and the Final Five: using cues for good (not manipulation)

    They close by addressing the fear that cue knowledge can be weaponized, reinforcing intention as the safeguard. Vanessa answers Jay’s Final Five—including her ‘no more fake smiles’ law—and they wrap with encouragement to practice, experiment, and find your people.

    • Skills can be used for ‘good or evil’; intention must guide technique
    • Confidence isn’t universal approval—it’s being okay without it
    • Final Five: best/worst advice, awkward pauses, and ‘no fake smiles’ law
    • Call to action: test the tools (especially ‘hey’) and share results

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