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Jay Shetty PodcastDr Julie Smith ON: Unblocking Negative Emotions & How to Embrace Difficult Feelings
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Stop numbing emotions: build awareness, values, and healthier responses
- Dr. Julie Smith said a common root issue is people expecting therapy—or other people—to “fix” them, rather than learning skills that help them influence how they feel.
- She explained that emotions and moods are designed to fluctuate, and that judging low moods as failure often intensifies the downward spiral instead of helping meet unmet needs.
- She described avoidance and “blocking behaviors” as short-term relief strategies that can lead to emotional numbness, reducing access to joy, pleasure, and love.
- She argued motivation is unreliable because it comes and goes, so consistent action works better when tied to values and practiced through skills like mindfulness and “opposite action.”
- She said supporting grief is less about saying the perfect thing and more about showing care, asking open questions, and walking alongside someone through pain rather than trying to remove it.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasMental health improves when people feel empowered, not “fixed.”
Dr. Julie Smith said many people arrive expecting therapy to be something “done to them,” because they feel at the mercy of their emotions. She emphasized that learning how the mind and body work can be a “game-changer” that helps people feel empowered to influence how they feel.
Low moods aren’t proof you’re failing; they’re part of normal human fluctuation.
She said there’s a cultural pull to believe our default should be happiness, and anything else means we’re doing life wrong. She framed fluctuating emotions—including low mood—as a normal part of being human, and suggested responding by noticing the feeling and checking for unmet needs rather than spiraling into self-judgment.
Numbing pain can also numb joy.
She described “blocking behaviors” (like overeating, binge-watching, drinking, or staying excessively busy) as ways people try to avoid aversive feelings. She warned that blocking “negative” emotions can also blunt joy, pleasure, and love, sometimes leaving people feeling numb and questioning their relationships and interests.
Don’t rely on motivation; rely on values-driven consistency.
She argued motivation should be treated like any other emotion: it comes and goes, so it can’t be the basis for consistent action. She suggested anchoring behavior in values and goals (like health for your children) and not making choices solely on whether you “feel like it.”
Building a gap between urge and action creates real choice.
She explained that people often act on urges without noticing the separation between urges and actions, and described mindfulness as a way to widen that gap. She shared a simple “Polo mint” game as practice for experiencing an urge (to crunch) without acting on it, building the skill of “opposite action.”
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWhen you block emotion out, what you can end up doing is blocking them all out.
— Dr. Julie Smith
Human beings are built to fluctuate and, and emotions come and go.
— Dr. Julie Smith
Motivation, you have to treat it like any other emotion. Some days it will be there, some days it won't. So you can't rely on it to be there, um, to help you reach your goals.
— Dr. Julie Smith
You don't ever want to put the responsibility for your own healing or your own happiness in that other person's hands.
— Dr. Julie Smith
In the age of kind of social media growing or, or all the problems that might come with that, you're only able to tackle that and make conscious choices about what you want for your life if you are able to step back and consider the problem first.
— Dr. Julie Smith
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SPEAKERS
Dr. Julie Smith
guestClinical psychologist and mental health author/content creator focused on practical tools for managing emotions and wellbeing.
Jay Shetty
hostHost of On Purpose and author of Think Like a Monk.
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