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Jay Shetty Podcast

MEGHAN TRAINOR ON: If You STRUGGLE With Low Self-Worth & Confidence, WATCH THIS! | Jay Shetty

Today, Jay Shetty sits down with Meghan Trainor. Getting a break as a young adult, life in the limelight is a journey that requires strong will, a powerful mind, determination like no other, and a support system that has your back through…

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Aug 29, 20221h 2mWatch on YouTube

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Meghan’s anxiety “fire alarm” feeling and meeting Jay
Meghan describes what panic can feel like in her body and recalls being told her stress response was constantly activated. Jay then welcomes her and frames the conversation around her career and presence.
- •Meghan describes a constant fight-or-flight sensation and feeling like her body is overheating
- •A clinician explains to her that her body’s chemicals are out of balance and her adrenals feel “on fire”
- •Jay introduces Meghan and highlights her career milestones and recent projects
- •They establish a warm, playful rapport before getting personal
Building a dream home: the secret bookshelf door and attic playground
The conversation starts light with Meghan explaining the “secret door” in her home and why she’s designing the space around childhood imagination and future kids. Jay shares his fascination with secret doors and tells a story about encountering one himself.
- •Meghan says she’s building her childhood dream house for a future family
- •Her husband requested a hidden bookshelf door during renovations
- •The door leads to an attic she’s turning into a kids’ play space and potential homeschooling area
- •Jay shares a story about a hidden door triggered by a Winston Churchill figurine
Two toilets, marriage closeness, and going viral for being goofy
Meghan explains why she installed side-by-side toilets and how it reflects closeness with her husband. She notes that sharing quirky, private-life details online often gets a positive, viral response.
- •Meghan added a second toilet next to the first so she and her husband can use the bathroom without waiting
- •She describes their comfort and bonding as a couple, while clarifying boundaries
- •She notices the internet responds strongly to her goofy, personal stories
- •Jay transitions the conversation toward deeper themes like mental health and vulnerability
Growing up on Nantucket: small-town bubble, early partying, and survival
Meghan reflects on Nantucket feeling isolated and “small,” and how limited outlets for kids led to early drinking, drugs, and risky behavior. She shares that many people she knew struggled, including her brother eventually choosing sobriety.
- •Meghan contrasts Nantucket’s small scale with big cities and explains why travel felt overwhelming
- •She says kids often started drinking, doing drugs, and hooking up very young due to lack of places to hang out
- •She worries looking back at how unsafe some situations were and notes many friends became addicts
- •She shares her brother later recognized he needed to be sober
Songwriting competitions and the fast track to Nashville and LA
Meghan explains how traveling for songwriting conventions expanded her world and set her on an unusual path compared to her peers. She describes moving to Nashville at 19 to write daily, then quickly transitioning into major success and adulthood responsibilities handled by a team.
- •Meghan says songwriting conventions were a key moment where her bubble burst through travel and exposure
- •She moved to Nashville alone at 19 and treated it as her “college,” writing songs as her daily job
- •She describes writing “All About That Bass,” getting signed, and moving to LA at 19
- •She shares feeling she missed certain learning steps and basic life skills because others handled logistics
Harsh feedback, resilience, and how supportive parents shaped her work ethic
Meghan recalls being critiqued publicly at songwriting events, feeling hurt, then returning with a dramatically improved album and getting signed. She credits her parents’ belief in her—especially their support of her songwriting routine—as the foundation for her courage and persistence.
- •She describes critiques about lyrics and production that initially “killed” her confidence
- •She went home, rewrote a full album, returned, and was recognized for taking feedback seriously
- •She attributes her courage primarily to supportive parents who believed in her early
- •Meghan describes writing and producing a song after school every day and playing it for her parents by dinner
Family closeness, breaking generational patterns, and learning to talk about feelings
Meghan explains how deeply involved her family is in her daily life, including her mom working as her assistant and relatives living together. She describes actively breaking generational “secrets,” confronting unhealthy self-talk, and encouraging therapy within her family system.
- •Meghan says her mom is her best friend and now functions as her assistant in a way that feels comfortable
- •She describes raising her child surrounded by family and reflecting on how that environment affects him
- •She talks about breaking “generational trauma” and rejecting the family pattern of hiding problems
- •Meghan calls out harmful self-talk in her family and notes resistance to therapy from older generations
Songwriting then vs. now: from chasing radio to “ruthlessly” honest healing
Meghan contrasts writing strategically for other artists with writing from a raw place that connected widely. She describes how success pulled her into chasing charts, and how she’s now returning to making music that feels honest and personal, including reflecting on how curated life appears online.
- •Meghan says early on she wrote with radio in mind for other artists, but “All About That Bass” came from a joking, therapeutic idea
- •She shares how sudden global success changed her expectations and tempted her to chase radio
- •She describes her newer work as coming from a healed, mature, honest place
- •She references lyrics about curating posts and spending time reading comments while privately crying
Authenticity online and the power of describing panic attacks out loud
Meghan explains what “showing up authentically” means for her, emphasizing relatability rather than documenting every low moment. She shares how a public explanation of panic attacks helped her family finally understand what she was experiencing and reduced resentment.
- •Meghan says sharing real, personal details helps her feel accepted for who she is
- •She links her openness to mental health—wanting to normalize what people hide
- •She describes how seeing Carson Daly explain a panic attack helped her mother and friend understand her experience
- •She reflects on how family misunderstanding fueled resentment, and how language for anxiety changed their relationship
Worst panic attack: live TV pressure, dissociation, and self-medicating with edibles
Meghan recounts her first major panic attack during a high-pressure work moment in New York, including dissociation and fear of dying. She also describes a frightening episode of taking too many edibles, and how these experiences made her nervous system feel unpredictable for months.
- •Meghan describes a panic attack at 4 a.m. while preparing for a live GRAMMY-related appearance
- •She explains dissociation and grounding techniques like naming objects to return to the present
- •She recalls feeling on autopilot on live TV and breaking down immediately afterward
- •She describes mistakenly taking a far higher edible dose than usual and feeling similar symptoms to panic
Finding stability: antidepressants, stigma, and pregnancy/NICU blame
Meghan explains meeting a psychiatrist, starting antidepressants, and feeling the mental “quiet” return over time. She then describes conflicting medical opinions during pregnancy and painful stigma when her baby was in the NICU, including being told medication was to blame without evidence she trusted.
- •Meghan says a psychiatrist explained her body was stuck in a constant alarm state and she started antidepressants
- •She describes relief as panic episodes reduced and her husband learning how to support her
- •She shares a doctor told her to stop her medication immediately upon pregnancy, leading her to change doctors
- •She recounts NICU staff attributing her baby’s sleepiness to antidepressants and how that intensified guilt after a C-section
Choosing help over numbing: fear of spiraling, Ryan’s “scary Sundays,” and therapy as “another brain”
Meghan explains what motivated her to seek treatment—fear of losing her future and being trapped in severe illness. She credits her brother Ryan for recognizing panic symptoms and guiding her toward safer care, while also describing his past reliance on substances and his later move toward trauma therapy.
- •Meghan says she was scared of ending up hospitalized long-term and wanted to fight for the life she dreamed of
- •She shares that Ryan used alcohol and drugs to cope with anxiety and had severe panic episodes he kept private
- •She describes Ryan helping her feel less alone and coaching her on seeking low-dose medical support
- •Meghan says hearing the idea that “brains heal brains” encouraged Ryan to start trauma therapy
Health, habits, and food: chemicals, sugar, and lifestyle rewiring
They discuss how mood and behavior can be influenced by chemistry, sleep, and diet, and how habits shape daily life. Meghan shares working with a dietician, noticing how certain foods affect emotions, and reframing fitness and strength as motivating goals.
- •Jay shares learning about low vitamin D and how chemistry can affect mood and energy
- •Meghan says a dietician helped her change lifestyle gradually and connect food with mental states
- •They discuss how unhealthy food environments can affect kids’ energy and behavior
- •Jay frames a “crisis of habits,” and Meghan agrees that growing up means rewiring patterns
Love, care, and not settling: how Daryl changed her expectations
Meghan describes realizing she deserved consistent kindness and care through her relationship with Daryl. She shares examples of his support early in their relationship and during difficult periods, and how that shaped her view of partnership and family.
- •Meghan says Daryl’s everyday care—like opening doors and helping her when she’s anxious—showed her a new standard
- •She recounts him joining her on tour early on and taking care of her after shows
- •She describes his support during vocal surgery when she couldn’t speak and throughout pregnancy
- •She shares that he wanted to be a father with her despite his own family history
Body image, mirror work, and learning to receive compliments (Final Five)
Meghan reflects on ongoing body criticism even after weight loss and explains a therapy exercise of standing naked in front of a mirror to shift self-perception after pregnancy changes. They end with the rapid-fire Final Five, covering relationship growth, anxiety routines, advice, and an anti-bullying law.
- •Meghan says weight loss didn’t automatically change how she feels, and she’s still reprogramming self-talk
- •She describes a mirror exercise that was initially painful after her C-section scar and stretch marks but began changing her inner dialogue
- •Jay shares a practice for receiving compliments: thank the person, then reflect on where the quality came from
- •Final Five includes working on understanding feelings in the relationship, a meditation routine, advice from her father, rejecting pessimistic parenting/marriage advice, and a proposed law against online bullying

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