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The Jefferson Fisher PodcastThe Top Communication Advice of the Year: Best of The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
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Year-End Welcome and Three Top Episodes
Jefferson Fisher recaps 2024, including the podcast charting number one, finishing his book and speaking at NASA. He thanks listeners and introduces the three most-listened-to episodes of season one.
- •The podcast charted number one for three weeks
- •He finished his book, which releases in a few months
- •He spoke at NASA and in new cities
- •The compilation features the top three episodes of season one
Responding to Rude Comments: Three Strategies and the Card Game
Fisher previews three responses to rude comments: "Did you mean?", checking passive-aggressive remarks, and silence. He explains that rude comments are tests and that trading insults is a lose-lose game.
- •Three responses: "Did you mean?", check questions, and silence
- •Rude comments test whether they can get a reaction out of you
- •The card-game analogy shows nobody wins, and the last to speak usually has to apologize
- •Replying rudely justifies the other person's next step and confirms their comment
"Did you mean?" and Passive-Aggressive Comments
Fisher explains the question of intent, using the example of a snide remark at a meeting, and shows it works over text and email. He then covers passive-aggressive comments, which are best met with phrases like "It sounds like there's more to that."
- •"Did you mean?" asks about intent and lets the person clarify or backtrack
- •It makes you look wise rather than assuming their intent
- •It also works for terse texts like "K"
- •For passive-aggressive remarks, use "It sounds like" or "It seems like" to pull them out of the moment
Silence and the Four-Second Pause
Fisher describes silence as his favorite response to a rude comment. He recommends a four-second look and a mental "counsel desk" where you set their words aside.
- •Look at them for four seconds, with a look of puzzlement
- •The pause signals you heard, weighed and dismissed the comment
- •Imagine placing their words on a counsel desk without reading them
Listener Emails: Short Emails and a Passive-Aggressive Mother
Fisher reads emails from Amy, who is bothered by a colleague's very short emails, and from Paul, whose mother makes passive-aggressive comments at family functions. He applies the "Did you mean?" and "sounds like there's more" techniques, and then recaps the three steps.
- •Amy can ask "Did you mean for that to sound short?" rather than assuming intent
- •Asking for more context briefly avoids over-apologizing
- •With Paul's mother, respond with kindness and ask "Is there more to what you're saying?"
- •Approach family with grace and patience
Responding When Someone Belittles You
A new episode begins on what to say when someone tries to put you down. Fisher lays out three steps: make them say it again, ask questions of intent, and say nothing if they persist.
- •Making them repeat the comment withholds the reaction they want
- •Questions of intent include "Did you intend to embarrass me?"
- •If they keep going and you don't feel safe, silence is the most powerful move
- •The goal is to keep your integrity intact
Deposition Story and Why the Techniques Work
Fisher tells of training a client for a deposition, where she asked opposing counsel "Did you say that to embarrass me?" and he backtracked. He explains why repeating and intent questions flip the spotlight back onto the speaker.
- •He trains clients in conflict communication before cross-examination
- •The client's question made the opposing attorney backtrack immediately
- •Asked to repeat, people often rephrase or can't say it again
- •Intent questions act like a mirror, and if they admit intent, silence is best
Belittling at Work and Carol's Question
Fisher walks through a team-meeting example of "Nobody asked you." He then answers Carol, whose coworker makes comparisons like "Not bad for an old lady," telling her to stay calm, not laugh it off, and ask a question of intent.
- •Apply the steps: ask them to repeat, then ask a question of intent
- •The emotionally mature person doesn't need to respond to disrespect
- •Carol shouldn't laugh off or wave away the comparisons
- •Ask "Did you say that to embarrass me?" and let the silence hang
Responding to a Liar: Pause, "Something Feels Off," and Silence
A new episode opens on what to do when you know someone is lying. Fisher offers three responses: say you need to come back to the conversation, say something feels off, or stay silent for 10 to 15 seconds.
- •Truthful people have no problem with delay, while liars overreact
- •"Something feels off" invites discussion, which liars avoid
- •Silence of 10 to 15 seconds makes liars talk to themselves
- •He cautions that this is not one-size-fits-all
Spotting Overreaction and Why Liars Hate Delay
Fisher says the real indicator is a sudden jump in defensiveness, such as from a three to a twelve, not over-explaining. He explains that liars dislike delay and research, may gaslight or flip the blame, and that accusing them outright makes things worse.
- •Over-explaining or neurodivergence is not proof of lying
- •A big overreaction followed by defensiveness is the signal to trust your gut
- •Liars want an immediate reaction and a smooth acceptance of the story
- •They may gaslight or bring up the past to cast themselves as the victim
- •Calling them a liar prompts them to double down
Deposition Story: Texting While Driving
Fisher shares a deposition where a witness claimed he never texted while driving. After about 10 seconds of silence, the witness backed down and admitted it, without Fisher having to accuse him.
- •The witness used the absolute "never," and Fisher already had his phone records
- •Fisher stayed silent for about 10 seconds
- •The witness backpedaled, or "crawfished"
- •Fisher gave him a respectful chance to correct himself without calling him a liar
April's Question: Over-Explaining Looks Like Lying
Fisher reads April's question about being seen as dishonest when she over-explains. He advises giving the yes, no or fact first and then explaining, rather than leading with "Let me explain."
- •Delaying the direct answer makes people seem to be hiding something
- •Give the answer up front, then say "Can I explain?"
- •For questions that aren't yes or no, say so and offer to explain
- •Needing to explain doesn't mean you're lying
Recap on Handling Liars
Fisher closes by recapping the three responses to a liar and thanks listeners for following the podcast.
- •Say "I need to come back to this conversation"
- •Say "That feels off"
- •Say nothing and let silence work
- •Asks listeners to follow and leave a review