The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1486 - Honey Honey
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:55
Honey Honey reunites during COVID and mends a long feud
Suzanne Santo and Ben Jaffe explain how Honey Honey got back together after a period of anger and near-total silence. COVID-era scares and perspective shifts pushed them back into communication, with Joe reflecting on grudges, friendship, and the value of talking things out.
- 1:55 – 3:00
Inside jokes, earthquakes, and the ‘bam’ vs ‘titties’ debate
The conversation veers into playful riffing: a mysterious ‘Balls of Steel’ reference, earthquake timing, and wordplay about what God might be saying during natural disasters. The trio establishes their improvisational chemistry through running gags.
- 3:00 – 5:14
Do we need a slur for white people? Names, gender, and teasing Jamie
Joe and the guests joke about the asymmetry of slurs and search for a ‘good one’ for white people (landing on meme-names like Chad/Karen). This spirals into a bit about gendered names, teasing Jamie’s name, and references to ‘A Boy Named Sue.’
- 5:14 – 8:09
Kids, legacy pressure, and choosing a meaningful life without parenting
The topic turns to social pressure around having children and the idea of ‘legacy.’ Joe argues life can be meaningful with or without kids, while Ben discusses loving nieces/nephews and friends’ kids without the full burden of parenting.
- 8:09 – 8:39
Age shaming and why people attack others when they feel insecure
Ben shares an experience of being age-shamed in real life, prompting Joe’s take that cruelty often reflects the attacker’s unhappiness. The conversation includes a comedic tangent imagining the Dalai Lama leaving nasty comments online.
- 8:39 – 11:36
Dalai Lama ‘cancellation,’ celibacy, and being chosen as a child
Joe recounts a controversial Dalai Lama clip and the idea of ‘canceling’ him, then the trio explores the oddity of selecting a spiritual leader as a child. They joke about celibacy as a job requirement and the strangeness of a life predetermined from infancy.
- 11:36 – 16:16
Zoolander to modeling: beauty as a lottery and the industry’s damage
A Zoolander discussion opens into Ben’s past as a teen model and the darker side of being paid for appearance. Joe and Suzanne connect modeling pressures to broader body-based professions, stereotypes about intelligence, and job toxicity across many fields.
- 16:16 – 23:01
The Troubadour memories, John Prine admiration, and a live cover on the spot
They reminisce about intimate venues and celebrity sightings, then pivot to John Prine’s songwriting. Suzanne performs ‘Angel from Montgomery’ live while they find the key, and Joe reacts with genuine admiration and encourages a formal cover.
- 23:01 – 29:27
Performing ‘Big Man’ dedicated to George Floyd
The trio transitions from musical play to a heavy dedication: Honey Honey performs ‘Big Man’ as an homage to George Floyd. The room shifts emotionally as they acknowledge the intensity of the moment and the weight of current events.
- 29:27 – 37:13
Police brutality, PTSD, and reform: cleaning house and treating trauma
Joe, Suzanne, and Ben discuss systemic police brutality, the psychology of power, and the need for accountability. They explore trauma exposure, poor training, sleep disorders, and propose reforms ranging from removing abusive officers to better mental-health interventions (including the stellate ganglion block for PTSD).
- 37:13 – 52:33
Historical echoes: redlining, Confederacy ideology, and Native American exploitation
The conversation broadens to long-term historical forces shaping modern inequality—redlining, Confederate ideology, and the proximity of slavery in time. They discuss ‘Killers of the Flower Moon,’ the Osage murders, and how resource wealth often intensified exploitation rather than improving justice.
- 52:33 – 1:26:26
Power, propaganda, and 2020 absurdity: Trump’s Bible photo-op and media trust
They analyze the St. John’s Church Bible photo-op, resignations over the use of force, and the ego-driven theater of modern politics. The group also riffs on misinformation, conspiratorial thinking, and the difficulty of knowing what’s real even in the age of video.
- 1:26:26 – 1:36:55
Comedy as coping: Tim Dillon, Andrew Schulz, and ‘Central Park Karen’
To cut the tension, Joe shares Tim Dillon’s Meghan McCain impression and praises Andrew Schulz’s pandemic-era commentary format. They use ‘Central Park Karen’ to discuss racism, fear responses in conflict, and proportional consequences, while also digressing into birdwatching and hunter-gatherer instincts.
- 1:36:55 – 4:44:37
Nature, hunting honesty, and ‘go to your room’: recalibrating modern life
Joe contrasts city life with immersion in nature, describing hunting as a more ‘honest’ relationship to food and recounting wolf kills and wilderness awareness. The conversation becomes philosophical: light pollution, humility under the stars, COVID as a planetary ‘time-out,’ and how interconnected systems (economics, exploitation, health, social conflict) feed into each other.
