Joe Rogan Experience #1486 - Honey Honey

1. 0:00 – 1:55

   Honey Honey reunites during COVID and mends a long feud

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Uh...

   2. SSSuzanne Santo0:01

      What if we, like, wrote you a new theme song? What if we just, like, started pitching theme songs right now?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      You could do that.

   4. SSSuzanne Santo0:05

      Really?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Yeah, I might do some fucking do that.

   6. BJBen Jaffe0:07

      Cool. Yeah, Ben. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      We're rolling. We're, we're actually-

   8. BJBen Jaffe0:09

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      We're rolling right now.

   10. SSSuzanne Santo0:10

       Yeah.

   11. BJBen Jaffe0:11

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:11

       Honey, honey.

   13. SSSuzanne Santo0:11

       Great.

   14. BJBen Jaffe0:11

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:12

       Um, how did the band get back together? 'Cause it... Literally, the band is back together. Like, you know that expression you say with your friends? "Bro, the band's back together."

   16. BJBen Jaffe0:19

       (laughs) Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       The band-

   18. SSSuzanne Santo0:19

       We haven't even said that shit yet.

   19. BJBen Jaffe0:20

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       The band's back together. (fingers snapping)

   21. BJBen Jaffe0:23

       Bam.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       The band's back together.

   23. BJBen Jaffe0:23

       I said bam? Oh, fuck. (laughs)

   24. SSSuzanne Santo0:24

       The band, the band's back together.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       The band is back together. You're saying bam?

   26. BJBen Jaffe0:26

       I know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I say bam all the time.

   28. BJBen Jaffe0:27

       I just... I'd rather say, like, titties or (laughs) something-

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Um, I'm a bam guy.

   30. BJBen Jaffe0:31

       Okay, bam's good.
2. 1:55 – 3:00

   Inside jokes, earthquakes, and the ‘bam’ vs ‘titties’ debate

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      By the way, shout out to-

   2. SSSuzanne Santo1:57

      ... it wasn't good.

   3. BJBen Jaffe1:57

      It wasn't good. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      ... Balls of Steel from the old Rogan board.

   5. SSSuzanne Santo1:59

      Right.

   6. BJBen Jaffe1:59

      Balls of Steel! (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:59

      Brought us all together.

   8. SSSuzanne Santo2:00

      Oh my God.

   9. BJBen Jaffe2:02

      (laughs)

   10. SSSuzanne Santo2:02

       Lives in infamy.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       That's an ins- that's an inside story, huh?

   12. BJBen Jaffe2:06

       God, how long... It's been a while now.

   13. SSSuzanne Santo2:07

       He still hasn't revealed himself.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       Yeah.

   15. SSSuzanne Santo2:08

       What if it was us the whole time, Joe?

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Whoever that dude is, it was us the whole time.

   17. BJBen Jaffe2:11

       (laughs) I-

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       But you were right, you had to be talented.

   19. SSSuzanne Santo2:13

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:13

       The, the video he sent was you guys doing Angel of Death acoustic on the roof of a building in LA.

   21. SSSuzanne Santo2:19

       Mm-hmm.

   22. BJBen Jaffe2:19

       So crazy. We were just-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:20

       That, that building is right now on fire.

   24. BJBen Jaffe2:22

       They were so... Probably. Jesus Christ. (laughs)

   25. SSSuzanne Santo2:24

       (laughs) Rightfully so.

   26. BJBen Jaffe2:25

       Oh my God. Goddammit. Yeah, when we were practicing last night there was an earthquake.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:31

       Oh, Jesus.

   28. BJBen Jaffe2:32

       And I was just, like, watching, like, my living room kinda. And I looked at Ben, I was like, "Fuck! No! What?"

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:38

       That's God-

   30. SSSuzanne Santo2:38

       Yeah, well, if acute laryngitis doesn't stop, an earthquake doesn't stop.
3. 3:00 – 5:14

   Do we need a slur for white people? Names, gender, and teasing Jamie

   1. JRJoe Rogan3:00

      And, and, and he invented all the... It's... I really... We need to find a good one for white people, you know?

   2. BJBen Jaffe3:06

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      We really need to balance this out.

   4. BJBen Jaffe3:08

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:08

      A good-

   6. SSSuzanne Santo3:08

      Mm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:09

      A good, juicy slur from-

   8. SSSuzanne Santo3:10

      There's not a-

   9. BJBen Jaffe3:10

      Chads.

   10. SSSuzanne Santo3:10

       There's not a solid one.

   11. BJBen Jaffe3:11

       Chads.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       (laughs) It's not... It's Karens.

   13. BJBen Jaffe3:13

       Brocks.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       Karen is one.

   15. SSSuzanne Santo3:14

       Yeah.

   16. BJBen Jaffe3:14

       Yeah, what's the white, what's the white one? Brock? Chad?

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       Rock? Chad. It's just Chads.

   18. BJBen Jaffe3:17

       Bradleys?

   19. SSSuzanne Santo3:18

       Chad's, I think it's Chads.

   20. BJBen Jaffe3:18

       I think Bradley feels fitting.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       Sure. Yeah.

   22. SSSuzanne Santo3:21

       A lot of poor Bradleys out there they can suffer from that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       But there's a lot of good Bradleys. Like, what's that Bradley? The actor? Bradley Cooper?

   24. BJBen Jaffe3:26

       Oh, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       That guy's badass.

   26. SSSuzanne Santo3:27

       Yeah.

   27. BJBen Jaffe3:27

       Yeah, he's great.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       He's a really good actor.

   29. BJBen Jaffe3:28

       Super great.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       So it can't be a-
4. 5:14 – 8:09

   Kids, legacy pressure, and choosing a meaningful life without parenting

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:14

      Well, then don't have kids.

   2. SSSuzanne Santo5:16

      There, she said it.

   3. BJBen Jaffe5:16

      (laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool.

   4. JRJoe Rogan5:18

      The one thing that those kid j- zealots like to do is they like to pretend that everybody needs to have kids in order to be-

   5. BJBen Jaffe5:25

      Mm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan5:25

      ... valuable in this life, you need to have kids. That's a-

   7. BJBen Jaffe5:27

      Interesting.

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:28

      ... lot of fucking pressure on people.

   9. BJBen Jaffe5:29

      Is that a thing?

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Sure. It's... You know what it is?

   11. SSSuzanne Santo5:31

       Huh?

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       When someone's doing something, they think you should be doing it.

   13. BJBen Jaffe5:35

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       Right? Like, you talk to someone who just started meditating and they can't sh-... That's me, I can never-

   15. BJBen Jaffe5:38

       Yeah, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       ... shut the fuck up about what I like doing.

   17. BJBen Jaffe5:40

       Yeah, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:40

       I'm always trying to get people to do things.

   19. BJBen Jaffe5:42

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:42

       You know?

   21. BJBen Jaffe5:43

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       But that's the thing with people with kids. They're, "Dude, you gotta have a fucking kid."

   23. BJBen Jaffe5:45

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       "You gotta have a fucking kid. Trust me. You gotta have a fucking-"

   25. BJBen Jaffe5:48

       No. I don't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:48

       "What is your life? What are you doing? You're not gonna have children?"

   27. SSSuzanne Santo5:50

       (laughs)

   28. BJBen Jaffe5:50

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       "You're not gonna procreate? Your name's not gonna carry on?" Like-

   30. BJBen Jaffe5:53

       (laughs)
5. 8:09 – 8:39

   Age shaming and why people attack others when they feel insecure

   1. BJBen Jaffe8:09

      Somebody age shamed me once and was like, "You're almost 40, blah, blah, blah." And I was like, "What's wrong with 40?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan8:14

      Was this online?

   3. BJBen Jaffe8:15

      No. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan8:15

      That sounds like a YouTube comment.

   5. SSSuzanne Santo8:17

      (laughs)

   6. BJBen Jaffe8:17

      Unfortunately, no.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:18

      That was in real life someone said that?

   8. BJBen Jaffe8:20

      Yeah.

   9. SSSuzanne Santo8:20

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       A, a guy you know?

   11. BJBen Jaffe8:21

       Yeah, let's go.

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       Oh, rude.

   13. BJBen Jaffe8:24

       (laughs)

   14. SSSuzanne Santo8:24

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:24

       How weak.

   16. BJBen Jaffe8:25

       Huh?

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:25

       But I mean, again, why would someone do that? They're trying to make you feel bad 'cause they don't feel good. That's what it is. It's always-

   18. BJBen Jaffe8:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:30

       ... the case. It's no one who feels great, is on top of the world. Dalai Lama's out there ... Not out there leaving shitty YouTube comments.

   20. BJBen Jaffe8:36

       Mm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:36

       You know?

   22. BJBen Jaffe8:36

       What if he was, though? (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       Imagine if he was.

   24. BJBen Jaffe8:38

       Secretly like ... (typing sounds)

6. 8:39 – 11:36

   Dalai Lama ‘cancellation,’ celibacy, and being chosen as a child

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:39

      Did you ever see the video of ... He does ... He got-

   2. SSSuzanne Santo8:41

      Oh, let's see it. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:41

      I don't know if you know this, but he got canceled for a little while.

   4. BJBen Jaffe8:44

      No.

   5. SSSuzanne Santo8:44

      What did he do?

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:44

      Yeah, the Dalai Lama got canceled.

   7. BJBen Jaffe8:46

      Wait.

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:46

      Yes, yes, yes.

   9. SSSuzanne Santo8:47

      I bet he dealt with it fine.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:48

       He did this v- and we actu- he was actually talking about this exact same subject. He did this interview where they said, uh, "You know, you've been ... You're celibate, and have you ever thought about being married or having children?" He goes, "Oh, I've seen a lot of marriages. Uh, much worry, much cancer." And he goes, "Plus, uh, when they break up, uh, woman get all the money." (laughs)

   11. SSSuzanne Santo9:10

       (laughs)

   12. BJBen Jaffe9:10

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:10

       He's, like, joking around. And, and, uh, and the lady's like, "What the fuck? This is the Dalai Lama."

   14. BJBen Jaffe9:16

       Oh, no. (laughs)

   15. SSSuzanne Santo9:18

       Oh, boy.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:18

       And, and then she goes ... She actually tries to social justice her way out of it 'cause, you know, she's o- ... She gotta confront him. She goes, "Actually, sometimes the woman makes her own money."

   17. BJBen Jaffe9:26

       Oh, shit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:27

       And he's like, "Oh, good one."

   19. SSSuzanne Santo9:29

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:29

       Like, he just goes like ... (laughs)

   21. SSSuzanne Santo9:30

       Oh, no.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:31

       "Yeah, sometimes." (laughs)

   23. BJBen Jaffe9:33

       Oh, no.

   24. SSSuzanne Santo9:33

       Oh, no.

   25. BJBen Jaffe9:33

       And so they just put him in time out for a minute. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:35

       People were saying like, "Should we cancel the Dalai Lama?" It was really funny. It was really funny.

   27. BJBen Jaffe9:40

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:40

       He's like, "I see people-"

   29. SSSuzanne Santo9:42

       You can cancel him if it needs to happen.

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       He goes, uh, "Then I see him, like, a couple years later, new person, new girlfriend, much worry, much cancer."
7. 11:36 – 16:16

   Zoolander to modeling: beauty as a lottery and the industry’s damage

   1. JRJoe Rogan11:36

      It was a consciousness stream. You know what I watched last night that I haven't seen? Really in-

   2. SSSuzanne Santo11:40

      Which one?

   3. JRJoe Rogan11:40

      I don't think I ever saw it through. It was Zoolander.

   4. SSSuzanne Santo11:42

      Mm.

   5. BJBen Jaffe11:42

      Oh, it's so good.

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:43

      Hilarious.

   7. BJBen Jaffe11:44

      It's so good.

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:45

      So ridiculous.

   9. SSSuzanne Santo11:45

      Who am I?

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       It's so ridiculous.

   11. BJBen Jaffe11:48

       (laughs)

   12. SSSuzanne Santo11:48

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan11:48

       What a great idea to have a, a, like, a super vapid beautiful man.

   14. BJBen Jaffe11:53

       Oh, it's so good.

   15. SSSuzanne Santo11:54

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:54

       (laughs) In one of those really slapsticky silly comedies.

   17. BJBen Jaffe11:57

       There's so much truth to it, though. That's the sad part.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:00

       It was great.

   19. SSSuzanne Santo12:00

       I enjoyed the shit out of it.

   20. BJBen Jaffe12:01

       It's like there's a ... Yeah.

   21. SSSuzanne Santo12:02

       You, you knew male models when you were doing male modeling stuff, right?

   22. BJBen Jaffe12:05

       I did.

   23. JRJoe Rogan12:06

       You were doing male modeling?

   24. SSSuzanne Santo12:07

       You were doing male modeling, right?

   25. BJBen Jaffe12:08

       (laughs) Back, back in my-

   26. SSSuzanne Santo12:09

       Did that come out wrong?

   27. JRJoe Rogan12:10

       Right.

   28. BJBen Jaffe12:10

       ... formative, formative years when I was a male model.

   29. SSSuzanne Santo12:13

       (laughs)

   30. BJBen Jaffe12:13

       News grenade. Uh-
8. 16:16 – 23:01

   The Troubadour memories, John Prine admiration, and a live cover on the spot

   1. BJBen Jaffe16:16

      You know he was sitting next to us at the Sturgill concert?

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:19

      Oh yeah, yeah. He was right over there.

   3. BJBen Jaffe16:19

      He was on the-

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:20

      Yeah.

   5. BJBen Jaffe16:20

      He was on one side and then Johnny Burnthal, the Punisher, was on the other.

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:24

      Yeah.

   7. BJBen Jaffe16:24

      And it was like one of the best days of my life. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:27

      (laughs) Well, it was cool.

   9. BJBen Jaffe16:29

      I- (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       I enjoyed that very much.

   11. BJBen Jaffe16:30

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       I don't get to see concerts like that.

   13. BJBen Jaffe16:32

       It was so great.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       And, you know, and to go and see it with you-

   15. SSSuzanne Santo16:35

       Was that at The Forum?

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       ... that was really fun. We had fun.

   17. BJBen Jaffe16:36

       It was, it was a blast.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       We had dinner together.

   19. BJBen Jaffe16:37

       Yeah. It was cool.

   20. SSSuzanne Santo16:38

       Where was, where was the show?

   21. BJBen Jaffe16:39

       It was at The Troubadour.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       The show was at The Troubadour.

   23. SSSuzanne Santo16:41

       The Troubadour? Holy shit.

   24. BJBen Jaffe16:42

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       Dude, it was awesome.

   26. SSSuzanne Santo16:42

       Wow.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       And it was the Fire and Fury, this new, new shit-

   28. SSSuzanne Santo16:45

       Did they show him in the video?

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       ... that he's doing. Yeah. But he's also doing a lot of stuff from his old, his old catalog too, so it was just... It was awesome, and it was real intimate. Like, what is that, 400 people or something?

   30. BJBen Jaffe16:54

       Five.
9. 23:01 – 29:27

   Performing ‘Big Man’ dedicated to George Floyd

   1. SSSuzanne Santo23:01

      Humble man. Um, you wanna do Big Man? Since we're, like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:04

      Yeah, let's do it.

   3. SSSuzanne Santo23:05

      ... here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:05

      Do it.

   5. SSSuzanne Santo23:05

      I might need-

   6. Okay.

   7. JRJoe Rogan23:05

      ... a tune up, though, 'cause it's chilly in here.

   8. BJBen Jaffe23:08

      (guitar strumming)

   9. JRJoe Rogan23:08

      Is it chilly in here? Do you want to-

   10. SSSuzanne Santo23:10

       No, no, no from the fiddle point.

   11. BJBen Jaffe23:12

       (violin strumming)

   12. SSSuzanne Santo23:13

       It's not bad.

   13. Let me tune that, and this isn't live?

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:18

       No.

   15. SSSuzanne Santo23:18

       Right, okay.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       But we're not editing it.

   17. SSSuzanne Santo23:21

       Right.

   18. (laughs) Fuck.

   19. Okay, okay, okay.

   20. Well, shit. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:26

       Isn't that crazy that you know how, whether it's warm or cold based on the strings, based on you running that thing acro- What is that thing called? The wand.

   22. SSSuzanne Santo23:35

       It's a wand. (laughs)

   23. BJBen Jaffe23:36

       (laughs)

   24. SSSuzanne Santo23:36

       That's so much better than what it's called.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:38

       What is it called?

   26. SSSuzanne Santo23:38

       It's... It's called a wand.

   27. No. (laughs)

   28. It's, it's a bow.

   29. It's called a bow.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:41

       Is it really?
10. 29:27 – 37:13

    Police brutality, PTSD, and reform: cleaning house and treating trauma

    1. JRJoe Rogan29:27

       I think, uh, ultimately, society needed this. That they need, didn't need that guy to die, but they needed this event to snap out of whatever, whatever bullshit relationship, particularly the Black community has with police. And the videos that have come out since of, of police officers doing shit while this is all going on, during this... Like, it's like they have a, they have a, a pattern, some of these cops. They can't break out of it. They're, they're used-

    2. BJBen Jaffe29:57

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan29:57

       ... to treating people like shit.

    4. BJBen Jaffe29:58

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan29:58

       They're used to violently assaulting people.

    6. BJBen Jaffe30:00

       Yeah.

    7. SSSuzanne Santo30:00

       Yes, they direct it.

    8. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       There's so much of it. There's so much crazy shit of guys using batons on women just standing there.

    9. BJBen Jaffe30:06

       Oh, God. I know it's-

    10. JRJoe Rogan30:06

        The girl's just standing there and he's using a baton on the front of her thighs and throws her onto the ground. I'm like, "Fucking come on, man."

    11. SSSuzanne Santo30:13

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan30:13

        "How are you doing this?" 'Cause someone won't comply. Like, the position of being a person that gets that ki- that has that kind of power over people, where p- people have to comply to you, is just psychologically-

    13. SSSuzanne Santo30:25

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan30:25

        ... fraught with peril. You know? Whether it's Black people or... There's a lot of it doing with white people. There's a, there's a horrible video on my friend Joe Schilling's page. Um, Joe, you know, Joe Schilling the kickboxer? He's got a, a page on his Instagram he's been putting post after post is police brutality shit.

    15. BJBen Jaffe30:41

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan30:41

        Post after post.

    17. BJBen Jaffe30:42

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan30:42

        It's like, "Is this to serve or protect?"

    19. BJBen Jaffe30:44

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan30:44

        And it's just this old man, and the guy has a cane-

    21. BJBen Jaffe30:46

        No, I don't think...

    22. Uh-huh.

    23. JRJoe Rogan30:46

        ... and the cops are slamming into him with their shield, and he goes flying and falls and hits his head on a bike rack.

    24. SSSuzanne Santo30:51

        Mm-hmm.

    25. JRJoe Rogan30:51

        It's fucking horrible.

    26. BJBen Jaffe30:53

        It's horrible.

    27. JRJoe Rogan30:53

        All the... I mean, there's some- That is, that has been going on.

    28. BJBen Jaffe30:58

        Yeah.

    29. SSSuzanne Santo30:58

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan30:58

        It's been going on in the Black community clearly. We have a, a shitload of evidence. It's been going on with all kinds of people.
11. 37:13 – 52:33

    Historical echoes: redlining, Confederacy ideology, and Native American exploitation

    1. JRJoe Rogan37:13

       ... another thing that came out of this whole COVID thing, and then with this coming afterwards, it's like-... when, when you're dealing with perpetually, perpetually crime-ridden neighborhoods, like if them, they've had crime in them forever, and, uh, a lot of these neighborhoods are African American neighborhoods that have had crime. Like, whether it's the South Side of Chicago or, uh, outside of Baltimore, like, when you see how the government can spend so much money bailing out corporations that are fucked-

    2. BJBen Jaffe37:41

       Right.

    3. JRJoe Rogan37:41

       ... but they don't bail out cities that are fucked-

    4. BJBen Jaffe37:44

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan37:44

       Like, you know ... Hold on, you knew Baltimore was fucked.

    6. SSSuzanne Santo37:47

       (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan37:48

       Like, no one had any questions whether parts of Baltimore were just fucked. In fact, there was laws that used to redline. You weren't allowed to buy a house-

    8. BJBen Jaffe37:56

       Mm-hmm.

    9. JRJoe Rogan37:56

       ... in certain areas if you were an African American. So, we know that.

    10. BJBen Jaffe38:00

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan38:00

        So, how come you bail out corporations, as you never bailed out these inner cities? It would've cost a fraction-

    12. SSSuzanne Santo38:07

        (laughs) .

    13. JRJoe Rogan38:07

        ... to set up community centers, build more be- bet- much better affordable housing. You, you w-

    14. SSSuzanne Santo38:12

        Because leadership is too short-sighted for that. And that, that's-

    15. JRJoe Rogan38:15

        But-

    16. SSSuzanne Santo38:15

        ... like a spiritual deficit.

    17. JRJoe Rogan38:17

        But what's crazy is they all want to pretend that they're pro-American. If you were pro-American, you would want less losers. You would li- want more people-

    18. SSSuzanne Santo38:26

        Sure.

    19. JRJoe Rogan38:26

        ... that have an opportunity to get out of bad circumstances. And whatever those bad circumstances are, you'd wanna keep people safe.

    20. SSSuzanne Santo38:33

        Mm-hmm.

    21. JRJoe Rogan38:33

        You'd wanna ... Even if we ... You, you're always gonna run into bad circumstances with people that have drug addictions or people ... You're not gonna cure all that. That's a human issue. Humans are crazy. You're not gonna stop broken families and all that stuff. That's just a part of being a person, but you can-

    22. BJBen Jaffe38:48

        Right.

    23. JRJoe Rogan38:48

        ... do a way better job of protecting people from crime, a way better job-

    24. BJBen Jaffe38:52

        Sure. Well-

    25. JRJoe Rogan38:52

        ... of insulating them from-

    26. BJBen Jaffe38:55

        You-

    27. JRJoe Rogan38:55

        ... drug deals and all that crazy shit.

    28. SSSuzanne Santo38:57

        Sure.

    29. BJBen Jaffe38:57

        Mm-hmm.

    30. SSSuzanne Santo38:57

        Or shielding them or, or integrating people in a healthier way into an economic system that addresses their needs.
12. 52:33 – 1:26:26

    Power, propaganda, and 2020 absurdity: Trump’s Bible photo-op and media trust

    1. SSSuzanne Santo52:33

       What about the thing with the drinking-

    2. JRJoe Rogan52:34

       Yes.

    3. SSSuzanne Santo52:34

       ... uh, you know, bleach or whatever, people did that-

    4. JRJoe Rogan52:37

       Oh.

    5. SSSuzanne Santo52:37

       ... and was like, "Oh, no-"

    6. BJBen Jaffe52:38

       No.

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:38

       "No, no, they didn't."

    8. BJBen Jaffe52:39

       Did they, though?

    9. SSSuzanne Santo52:39

       "No, no, no, no, they didn't. They didn't."

    10. JRJoe Rogan52:41

        Two morons drank the wrong form of hydroxychloroquine that is actually a pond cleaner. It's for fucking koi ponds. These dipshits had it in their garage and they're like, "This is it. This is chloroquine." And-

    11. BJBen Jaffe52:52

        Did they die?

    12. JRJoe Rogan52:53

        One guy died. And th- there's a problem.

    13. SSSuzanne Santo52:55

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan52:55

        And this is the conspiracy theory-

    15. BJBen Jaffe52:55

        Well, the guy looks crazy. Sorry. (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan52:57

        ... put your tinfoil hat on.

    17. BJBen Jaffe52:58

        That's not funny. (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan52:59

        They were... Here's the problem.

    19. SSSuzanne Santo53:01

        Wow, he's crushing it.

    20. JRJoe Rogan53:02

        They were uh, they were big time Democrats. That's why it doesn't make sense. And the, they were, one of them was a Democrat, uh, candidate contributor, I believe. Make sure that's right, I don't wanna get sued.

    21. SSSuzanne Santo53:11

        (laughs)

    22. JRJoe Rogan53:11

        But, uh, and people are like, "Wait, you guys are just..." You know, "You're not supposed to do that." Like, "Did you just think you had, magically had this stuff laying around?"

    23. BJBen Jaffe53:19

        Yeah, how dumb-

    24. SSSuzanne Santo53:19

        Well, but I wasn't talking about the hydroxy...

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:21

        The problem is it's just, it's a random thing where it sounds the same and it's real... It's hydroxychloroquine versus some other kind of chloroquine.

    26. SSSuzanne Santo53:29

        Yes.

    27. BJBen Jaffe53:29

        You sure there wasn't some, like, agenda here? That just seems like ho... I'm sorry. I, I, I don't wanna-

    28. SSSuzanne Santo53:34

        I'm getting confused then.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:34

        It could be.

    30. BJBen Jaffe53:35

        I don't wanna disrespect the, uh, the dead/almost dead, like-

Episode duration: 4:44:37