The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2020 - Python Cowboy
At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Python Cowboy battles invasive predators, bureaucracy, and Florida’s dying Everglades
- Joe Rogan interviews "Python Cowboy" Mike, a Florida hunter and conservationist who removes invasive pythons and iguanas while advocating for better Everglades management. They detail how Burmese pythons, cane toads, iguanas, and other exotics are devastating native wildlife and infrastructure, and how regulations often block effective control efforts. Mike recounts near‑fatal encounters with giant pythons, his use of highly trained dogs to find underground nests, and a suspected history of intentional exotic releases for profit. The conversation widens into water mismanagement, Everglades politics, occult encounters in abandoned facilities, and broader worries about human tinkering with ecosystems, from genetically modified mosquitoes to uncontrolled development.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasInvasive pythons are decimating Everglades mammals and reshaping the food web.
Burmese pythons have wiped out 90–99% of small mammals like raccoons, rabbits, and otters in parts of the Everglades and heavily reduced deer, while increasingly preying on alligators and wading birds.
Management is possible, but current policies make meaningful control unlikely.
Mike argues that with broad public participation, better access (airboats, buggies), and dog teams, python populations can be significantly reduced; instead, national park rules, vehicle bans, and limited contractor programs keep efforts shallow and road‑bound.
Highly trained dogs are a breakthrough tool for finding hidden pythons and nests.
His dog Otto and others can locate underground pythons and nests that humans almost never find; this season alone his team found more nests than had been found in the state’s entire prior history, stopping dozens of snakes before they hatch.
Well‑intended bans on exotic pets can backfire and worsen invasions.
Florida’s bans on owning iguanas and tegus have prompted some owners to dump animals rather than have them euthanized, eliminating responsible keepers and free removal via the pet trade while leaving only law‑breakers and wild breeders.
Iguanas cause massive infrastructure damage and expensive repairs.
Green iguanas undermine foundations, seawalls, levees, and roads with burrows; one small town spent $1.7 million on levee repairs alone, and Miami‑Dade is now comparing iguana spending needs to its mosquito control budget (tens of millions annually).
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe're never getting rid of the pythons or the iguanas. They're here to stay, but management is absolutely essential.
— Python Cowboy (Mike)
One snake gives birth to 70 snakes… it shows what we’re up against.
— Python Cowboy (Mike)
If you’re not looking for these snakes, you’re not finding them.
— Python Cowboy (Mike)
Florida is unlike any other place… it’s almost appropriate that all these invasives are there.
— Joe Rogan
This idea that we’re supposed to trust these guys that they know exactly how everything’s gonna work out—like, fuck off.
— Joe Rogan
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