The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 1:53
Sorinex “X-Factor” machine: rotational power training for fighters
Joe and Bert kick off by geeking out over the Sorinex X-Factor—an unusual push/pull, dual-axis rotational machine designed to develop core stability and rotational power. They discuss why it’s especially relevant for striking sports and how it compares to cable-based setups.
- 1:53 – 2:52
“Remastered” strength equipment: reviving old ideas with modern design
Bert explains how Sorinex rebuilds and improves forgotten or flawed legacy gym machines by dissecting what worked and fixing safety, loading, and usability. The X-Factor is presented as a multi-iteration product refined until the dual-axis ‘feel’ clicked.
- 2:52 – 4:37
Old-school training culture: bro science, martial arts myths, and learning from winners
Joe and Bert reflect on how training knowledge spread before social media—mostly via gyms, word-of-mouth, and trial-and-error. They laugh at outdated martial arts advice (like ‘don’t lift weights’) and discuss how serious athletes sought insights directly from better competitors.
- 4:37 – 11:43
Steroids, legality, and the “you can abuse anything” argument
The conversation veers into performance-enhancing drugs, the lack of testing in past eras, and how policy shaped what became controlled substances. Joe broadens it into a philosophical point about personal responsibility and addiction, using gambling and drugs as examples.
- 11:43 – 15:20
’80s nostalgia to archery obsession: compound vs traditional bows
After a quick ’80s movie detour, they dive deep into archery: how Bert got his first bow after Rambo, why traditional archery is brutally difficult, and how compound bow technology changes the game. They describe the feel of hunting shots, flow state perception, and why practice volume matters.
- 15:20 – 22:06
Jiu-jitsu mastery: drilling, flow state, and why strength still matters
Joe explains how high-level jiu-jitsu becomes automatic through drilling with intent and light resistance—like tying your shoes. They debate technique vs power, why big athletes can develop gaps in their game, and why the best grapplers combine skill, strength, and relentless training volume.
- 22:06 – 28:57
Bert’s ‘throws world’ origin: hammer throw, Highland Games, and Scottish stone lore
Bert defines the ‘throws world’ (hammer/shot/discus/javelin) and traces its weapon origins, especially in Scotland. They explore Highland culture: clan stones (Clachnart), cairns as monuments, ancient stone circles, and the strongman pilgrimage to legendary lifting stones.
- 28:57 – 32:12
Cardio vs power: Cam Hanes, runner’s high, and training specificity
They contrast endurance addiction with power-sport priorities, using Cam Hanes as the extreme example. Joe explains runner’s high, while Bert argues that excessive cardio can be detrimental for throwers/strength athletes, reinforcing that training must match the sport’s demands.
- 32:12 – 43:13
Injuries, rehab tech, and peptides: knees, backs, and healing debates
Joe details his knee history and overuse injuries from heavy bow shooting, then describes using electrical muscle stimulation (Neufit) to rehab his back. They discuss modern recovery tools—BPC-157, TB-500, and stem cells—plus the gap between cutting-edge practice and conservative medicine.
- 43:13 – 1:08:19
Archery tech rabbit hole: rangefinders, apps, arrow ballistics, and bow draw weight
Joe and Bert go full gear-nerd: rangefinders that calculate arrow trajectory, OnX integration, image stabilization binos, and why missed branches create ‘mind games’ in the woods. They debate heavy draw weights, arrow spine, speed vs accuracy, and the pursuit of lethal, ethical setups.
- 1:08:19 – 1:20:41
Combat sports meta: boxing vs UFC pipelines, greatness, and fight damage
Joe compares how boxing ‘builds’ fighters while UFC matchmaking forces elite competition early—leading to more losses even for champions. They discuss Tyson, Ali, and pivotal historical moments, then shift to why fighting careers are short due to cumulative training damage and injuries.
- 1:20:41 – 1:34:47
Social media, trolling, and in-person communication: how to stay sane
They unpack why reading comments and doom-scrolling corrodes mental health and why ‘posting ghost’ is often the healthiest approach. Joe argues that online discourse amplifies tribalism and bad-faith attacks, while real-life conversation usually reveals more nuance and goodwill.
- 1:34:47 – 1:57:42
Westside Barbell stories: Louie Simmons, extreme culture, and channeling addiction
Joe and Bert trade stories about Louie Simmons and the intensity of Westside Barbell culture—where pain tolerance, chaos, and obsession were normalized. They connect this to a broader idea: people with addictive tendencies can sometimes redirect that energy into training, for better or worse.
- 1:57:42 – 3:02:42
Surveillance, protests, and politics: drones, encryption doubts, and mob psychology
The conversation expands into modern distrust: drones in New Jersey, disappearing videos, and skepticism about encrypted messaging. They revisit 2020-era unrest, argue that mob mentality is ancient and ‘war-like,’ and discuss how censorship, propaganda, and power incentives shape institutions.
- 3:02:42 – 3:36:23
Lifestyle balance and “the line”: Bert’s blood clot, Africa hunting ethics, and food rituals
Bert shares a near-fatal blood clot story that forced him to reconsider obsessive competition and long-term responsibility. They explore personal ‘lines’ in hunting ethics (Bert declines lion hunting), then land on practical joy: fishing, cooking methods, and meat-forward nutrition as a sustainable baseline.
- 3:36:23 – 3:38:16
Wrap-up: gear, gratitude, and what’s next from Sorinex
Joe thanks Bert for outfitting his gym and highlights daily-use staples like the Franken Hyper, teasing upcoming upgrades. Bert plugs Sorinex and his socials, and Joe closes by reminding viewers about the new X-Factor machine now in the studio.
