Joe Rogan Experience #2331 - Jesse Michels

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Jun 3, 20252h 44mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: June 3, 2025
Duration: 2h 44m
Channel: The Joe Rogan Experience
Watch on YouTube: ▶ Open ↗

EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Jesse Michels is the creator and host of American Alchemy, a YouTube series exploring controversial topics in science and culture through longform interviews. ⁠@JesseMichels ⁠ Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using ⁠https://dkng.co/rogan⁠ or with my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit ⁠https://gamblinghelplinema.org⁠ (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ⁠https://ccpg.org⁠ (CT), or visit https://⁠www.mdgamblinghelp.org⁠ (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $300 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Minimum minus 500 odds required. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: ⁠https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos⁠. Ends 6/22/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to ⁠https://rocketmoney.com/JRE or scan the QR code today!

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Joe Rogan
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Jesse Michels
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2331 - Jesse Michels explores uFOs, secret antigravity tech, AI gods, and mummified ‘aliens’ examined Joe Rogan and Jesse Michels dive into UFOs/UAPs, alleged black-budget antigravity research, and how disinformation, limited hangouts, and intelligence games muddy the entire UFO narrative. They explore AI’s explosive progress, its potential for deception and self-preservation, and the societal risks of unleashing powerful systems without regulation for a decade. The conversation also covers speculative archaeology and cosmology: lost or prior civilizations, Mars and the Moon anomalies, and whether some UFOs represent non-human intelligences, breakaway human tech, or both. In the final stretch, they focus on the controversial small ‘mummified beings’ from Peru, weighing forensic evidence against hoax claims and arguing for serious scientific study despite heavy stigma.

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