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Joe Rogan Experience #2513 - Dean Radin

Dean Radin, PhD, is Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), Associate Distinguished Professor at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and co-founder and chairman of the neuroengineering company Cognigenics. His latest book is “The Science of Magic: How the Mind Weaves the Fabric of Reality.” https://www.youtube.com/@InstituteofNoeticSciences https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/750262/the-science-of-magic-by-dean-radin-phd/ https://www.deanradin.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or Save $10 on your first month of Visible+ Pro with code ROGAN.  This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE

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Jun 11, 20262h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dean Radin argues psi phenomena are real, measurable, consequential today

  1. Dean Radin traces his path from engineering and experimental psychology into classified and academic psi research (Bell Labs, SRI/STARGATE, Princeton/PEAR) and explains how stigma and disciplinary silos shaped what could be studied and funded.
  2. He claims the strongest scientific support for psi comes from controlled protocols and meta-analyses, arguing that replication across many studies makes “it’s all flaws” increasingly hard to maintain and that some skeptics now refuse to look because they deem it “impossible.”
  3. Radin describes several lines of work: remote viewing (including operational anecdotes like the Carter-era bomber location), telepathy research (e.g., Ganzfeld automation), mind–matter interaction with random number generators, and “presentiment” experiments suggesting physiological responses seconds before random emotional stimuli are selected.
  4. He introduces a genetics angle (“psi genes”), reporting preliminary findings that imply some people may have biological factors that reduce or enhance psi sensitivity, and speculates that historical pressures (e.g., witch persecutions) could have affected population-level traits.
  5. The conversation extends to philosophy (materialism vs dual-aspect monism/idealism), ethical concerns about enhancing cognition/psi, and a biotech project using intranasal RNA interference aimed at dementia that might later intersect with cognition and potentially extrasensory perception.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Psi research has a long, method-driven scientific lineage, not just folklore.

Radin emphasizes that controlled experiments on telepathy/precognition began in the late 1800s and evolved into modern protocols focused on isolation, blinding, automation, and replication to rule out information leakage and coincidence.

The central dispute is increasingly sociological: “impossible” becomes a reason not to examine data.

He argues that many knowledgeable critics no longer point to specific methodological flaws but instead dismiss the entire domain a priori, which he frames as a departure from normal scientific skepticism.

Remote viewing, if taken at face value, challenges the notion of “secrets” as stable in principle.

Radin describes classified work as partly aimed at discovering limits—whether remote viewing can be blocked, shielded, or camouflaged—and notes the paradox of studying “nonlocal information” inside secrecy-driven institutions.

Presentiment is presented as a lab-friendly analog of real-world ‘gut feelings.’

He outlines experiments where autonomic measures (e.g., skin conductance) differ before a random system selects an emotional vs calm stimulus, claiming unusually large effects in his early UNLV work.

Mind–matter interaction may show individual ‘signatures’ detectable by machine learning.

Using RNG tasks (intend “more 1s” vs “more 0s”), Radin reports that neural networks could classify which person was influencing the system based on output patterns, motivating speculative applications like non-contact intention-based interfaces.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Take a fucking chance and try to figure out if the world is exactly constructed the way you've been told, because it might not be.

Joe Rogan

We do have very, very strong evidence that telepathy does exist.

Dean Radin

The second response, which is more recent now, is, "We're not even gonna look at the evidence because we know it's impossible," which is no longer a scientific argument.

Dean Radin

The whole point about classification is to keep secrets. We were figuring out ways that you can't keep secrets, right?

Dean Radin

The Inquisition had systematically looked for people over hundreds of years who had these abilities, and then they killed them.

Dean Radin

Institute of Noetic Sciences and “noetic” intuitionMaterialism/physicalism vs consciousness-first modelsRemote viewing protocols, targeting by random numbersSTARGATE/SRI research vs operational useMeta-analysis and replication in parapsychologyPresentiment (physiology anticipating random stimuli)Mind–matter interaction with RNGs and machine learning signaturesGenetics of psi sensitivity (SNPs/intron/epigenetics)Stigma, secrecy, and academic silosEthics of cognitive/psi enhancement; power and manipulation risksSpoon bending / “warm forming” as an extreme psychokinesis claimIntranasal RNA interference for memory/anxiety (dementia focus)UAP parallels: misinformation, secrecy, ultraterrestrial hypothesisSynchronicity/manifestation (yoga nidra intention story)

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