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Joe Rogan Experience #2513 - Dean Radin

Dean Radin, PhD, is Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), Associate Distinguished Professor at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and co-founder and chairman of the neuroengineering company Cognigenics. His latest book is “The Science of Magic: How the Mind Weaves the Fabric of Reality.” https://www.youtube.com/@InstituteofNoeticSciences https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/750262/the-science-of-magic-by-dean-radin-phd/ https://www.deanradin.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or Save $10 on your first month of Visible+ Pro with code ROGAN.  This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE

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Jun 11, 20262h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Dean Radin’s origin story: from violin to engineering to psychology

    Radin traces his unconventional path from classical violinist to electrical engineer to experimental psychologist, describing a career shaped by curiosity and repeatedly choosing the “second door.” He also explains a health condition that affected his relationship to physical performance and inadvertently became a longevity advantage.

  2. Institute of Noetic Sciences and the meaning of “noetic”

    Radin explains how learning about the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS), founded by Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell after a transformative “overview effect,” gave him a long-term destination: studying consciousness scientifically. He defines “noetic” as a kind of intuition accompanied by felt certainty.

  3. Why mainstream science dismisses psi—and why Radin thinks that’s a mistake

    The conversation turns to how “materialism/physicalism” is treated as an unspoken assumption in science education, and how that framework struggles with subjective experience. Radin argues that parapsychology has a long research lineage and that refusing to examine evidence is itself unscientific.

  4. Telepathy and early methods: from ‘thought transference’ to modern controls

    Radin compares early “thought transference” attempts—often confounded by signaling—to contemporary protocols requiring strict isolation and replication. He emphasizes that the strength of the case rests on cumulative replications and meta-analytic approaches.

  5. Bell Labs to SRI: entering the classified STARGATE world

    After conducting psi-related experiments while at Bell Labs, Radin presents at a parapsychology conference and is recruited into the STARGATE program at SRI International. He describes the shock of deep classification (special access programs) and the project’s core mission: understanding limits and mechanisms.

  6. What makes a great remote viewer? Talent, openness, and training

    Radin describes how the program searched for reliable predictors of remote viewing ability and found few consistent physiological or psychological markers beyond natural talent and openness to experience. He contrasts “instant” performers with trained viewers and explains protocols like avoiding premature labeling of impressions.

  7. Princeton and meta-analysis: making the case with big-picture statistics

    At Princeton, Radin attempts to build multidisciplinary teams around consciousness and psi research, but collides with academic silo incentives. He leans into meta-analysis as a way to test replicability across labs and to estimate the overall magnitude of psi effects.

  8. Mind–matter interaction and “intention signatures” in random systems

    Radin discusses experiments where participants attempt to influence random number generators (RNGs), noting variability across individuals. He describes applying early neural networks to detect person-specific patterns—suggesting unique ‘signatures’ of interaction between intention and randomness.

  9. From lab concept to near-patent—and the frustration of disbelief

    Radin recounts taking the intention-signature concept into industry near Washington, D.C., where the team approached a patent and drew military interest (e.g., submarine communication concepts). The project is abruptly shelved after acquisition because leadership refuses to believe the data.

  10. Edinburgh to UNLV: automated Ganzfeld and the ‘presentiment’ breakthrough

    After a layoff, Radin helps finish an automated Ganzfeld telepathy system in Edinburgh and develops presentiment experiments—physiological anticipation of emotional stimuli before random selection. At UNLV (with Bigelow funding), he reports striking presentiment effects and shares a dramatic real-world intuition story.

  11. Operational remote viewing examples: Carter’s bomber and submarine telepathy stories

    Radin and Rogan discuss standout remote viewing cases, including President Carter’s account of locating a crashed nuclear bomber using a map dowsing specialist. Radin also recounts submarine commanders describing accurate dream-based telepathic warnings despite deep submersion—supporting claims of non-electromagnetic communication.

  12. Nonlocal consciousness, evolution, and shamans: why we ‘lost’ the skill

    Radin proposes that evolution prioritized attention to local survival threats, making strong psi sensitivity rare or culturally specialized (e.g., shamans supported by the tribe). He argues the capacity may atrophy without need and be amplified by openness, reduced distraction, and potentially genetic inheritance.

  13. Psi genetics and the Inquisition hypothesis: turning sensitivity ‘off’

    Radin describes two genetic approaches: a small high-confidence comparison of ‘psychic family’ individuals vs controls, and a larger survey-based correlation using consumer-genetics datasets. A surprising result suggests controls may carry variants that suppress psi sensitivity, with a speculative historical link to selection pressures like witch hunts.

  14. The ‘magic’ chapter: spoon bending, motivation, and altered states

    Radin recounts a personal experience bending the bowl of a spoon without apparent force at a spoon-bending party, then later framing it in terms of metallurgy and micro-psychokinesis. He emphasizes the role of extreme motivation, belief, and non-analytic mental states—conditions hard to reproduce under laboratory constraints.

  15. From psi to biotech: Cognigenics, nose-to-brain delivery, and dementia treatment

    Radin describes forming Cognigenics to explore genetic and neurobiological routes to enhancing cognition (and possibly perception/psi), focusing first on dementia. He outlines an intranasal RNA-interference delivery system targeting serotonin receptors (5-HT2A), reporting large memory and anxiety improvements in animal models and discussing parallels to psilocybin’s downstream effects.

  16. Societal consequences: telepathy, control, AI parallels, and a future shift

    Rogan and Radin explore what widespread psychic capability would do to secrecy, propaganda, politics, and power—while warning about mind-influence risks and the need for ego/ethics training. They connect the discussion to technology’s double-edged nature (AI, phones), and end with a synchronicity story about “manifesting” a meeting via yoga nidra that reinforces Radin’s theme of intention shaping events.

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