Joe Rogan Experience #2513 - Dean Radin

1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

   [upbeat music] Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music] Thank you for being here.

2. DRDean Radin0:14

   Good to be here.

3. JRJoe Rogan0:14

   I'm excited to talk to you. Did you maybe manifest this conversation somehow?

4. DRDean Radin0:19

   Maybe.

5. JRJoe Rogan0:20

   [laughs]

6. DRDean Radin0:21

   [laughs]

7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

   Um, I've seen a bunch of your talks online and, um, the ... First of all, let's start from the beginning. Like, what did, what is your background?

8. DRDean Radin0:32

   Uh, I thought I'd give you a 40- 45-year arc-

9. JRJoe Rogan0:37

   Okay

10. DRDean Radin0:38

    ... in about three minutes.

11. JRJoe Rogan0:39

    Perfect.

12. DRDean Radin0:39

    Because then there's a lot of places you can get into it. So I started out as a musician, violin, uh, up until about halfway through college and then I realized to be a musician means you have to be an athlete, 'cause you're making your living with your body. No one told me that up through until I finally decided, I don't think I wanna make my living with my body 'cause I've never been very strong, and more importantly, you also need to have a lot of stamina, and I didn't have that.

13. JRJoe Rogan1:08

    And you weren't interested in gaining it?

14. DRDean Radin1:11

    I c- I couldn't.

15. JRJoe Rogan1:12

    [laughs]

16. DRDean Radin1:12

    I, I have a genetic mutation that, that created, uh ... Like, most people when they exercise, you feel really good afterwards. I feel really exhausted, and I never understood why until m- many years later I realized that I have something called Gilbert syndrome-

17. JRJoe Rogan1:28

    Uh-huh

18. DRDean Radin1:28

    ... which is a mutation of a liver enzyme, and y- you have no recovery time.

19. JRJoe Rogan1:34

    Whoa.

20. DRDean Radin1:35

    Yeah. So ...

21. JRJoe Rogan1:36

    Is there anything they can do for that?

22. DRDean Radin1:39

    Other than something like genetic engineering, which I've never heard anybody try yet, the answer is no.

23. JRJoe Rogan1:44

    I've never heard of that condition before, I don't think.

24. DRDean Radin1:46

    Yeah. It's, uh, there's some missing enzymes and more importantly, the bilirubin, which is unconjugated bilirubin. You have way too much of it. So there's an upside and a downside. The downside is that there, you, you can't recover from exercise quickly, and so there's a lot of fatigue that happens.

25. JRJoe Rogan2:04

    Mm.

26. DRDean Radin2:04

    The upside is that unconjugated bilirubin is an antioxidant. It's one of the n- most natural antioxidant, so my cardiovascular system is like a 20-year-old.

27. JRJoe Rogan2:16

    Oh. So you got your pros and your cons with this.

28. DRDean Radin2:20

    Yeah.

29. JRJoe Rogan2:21

    Have you ever tried exercising in very small doses, like, throughout the day?

30. DRDean Radin2:27

    Well, I w- I walk every day, so that's, that's my primary exercise.

Episode duration: 2:37:54