JRE MMA Show #144 with Jared Cannonier

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JCJared Cannonier0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      We're up. Here we go. Jared Cannonier, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, what, what a fucking crazy couple of weeks of fights it's been, man. It's so much to talk about.

   5. JCJared Cannonier0:22

      Absolutely, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      You know, this l- last main event, oh my god. I'm, I'm still, I'm still, like, in shock that Justin Gaethje head kick knockout.

   7. JCJared Cannonier0:31

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      ... of Dustin Poirier, I'm like, "Oh my god."

   9. JCJared Cannonier0:33

      I mean, we all knew that that fight was gonna be-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Some-

   11. JCJared Cannonier0:36

       ... tremendous.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah.

   13. JCJared Cannonier0:37

       Something, something big was gonna happen in that fight, so when it did and how it happened, it was beautiful. Beautiful execution of that, uh, of that technique by, uh, Justin Gaethje-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   15. JCJared Cannonier0:47

       ... to get that head kick off, it was beautiful. It landed beautifully, and he followed up nicely.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Yeah.

   17. JCJared Cannonier0:53

       Well, there was no follow-up. He was on his way. I think the ref stopped it-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       I think he did land one hammer fist.

   19. JCJared Cannonier0:57

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       But yeah, it was perfect. It was a direct mirror image of Leon Edwards' kick-

   21. JCJared Cannonier1:02

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       ... on the opposite side, in the same place.

   23. JCJared Cannonier1:04

       In the same arena, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Crazy.

   25. JCJared Cannonier1:06

       Yeah, that's crazy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Crazy. (laughs)

   27. JCJared Cannonier1:08

       Something's going on there, right?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Oh, man. There's... I tell you one thing, and you can tell me if this is, uh, if you feel it as a fighter, but there's something about the energy in an arena when you go to a place that really appreciates that you're there, 'cause like we're in Vegas a lot. You guys fight in Vegas all the time. People are-

   29. JCJared Cannonier1:25

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       They get a little used to the fact that the UFC's there.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      where Kevin Randleman suplexed him.

   2. JCJared Cannonier15:02

      Oh, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      And threw him on his neck.

   4. JCJared Cannonier15:04

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      And Fedor's expression never changed.

   6. JCJared Cannonier15:07

      Didn't change. Yeah. I saw that clip too. I thought that was-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      Isn't that wild?

   8. JCJared Cannonier15:09

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      It's so true.

   10. JCJared Cannonier15:10

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:10

       'Cause he's, he's, he just, no matter what, in the heat of battle-

   12. JCJared Cannonier15:14

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       ... just stone faced. Never, no emotion. No nothing. Stone faced.

   14. JCJared Cannonier15:19

       Yeah. That just says he saw some, some hard shit as a child probably.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Yeah, right? Something. I mean, it definitely wasn't easy.

   16. JCJared Cannonier15:27

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Whatever he went through was not easy. But that dude is a, that is a hard man.

   18. JCJared Cannonier15:31

       How did that fight end?

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Look at that. He kimura'd him. Like right after that. But look at the compression there.

   20. JCJared Cannonier15:36

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       I mean, look at how he's landing there. That's crazy.

   22. JCJared Cannonier15:40

       Fedor kimura'd him?

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah.

   24. JCJared Cannonier15:41

       Okay.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Like right afterwards.

   26. JCJared Cannonier15:43

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Yeah. You wa- you wanna see it?

   28. JCJared Cannonier15:45

       In this round?

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       It's pretty dope.

   30. JCJared Cannonier15:45

       Oh, yeah. Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Rockhold versus Kennedy. That…

   1. JCJared Cannonier30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Rockhold versus Kennedy. That was a great fight too.Ooh. Damn-

   3. JCJared Cannonier30:04

      So it was the-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      ... a lot of great fights in Strikeforce. My God. Strikeforce was one of the few organizations where you could absolutely say that it stood, like, neck and neck with some of the best UFC fights at the time.

   5. JCJared Cannonier30:16

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      You know? Like when Nate Diaz, or when Nick Diaz was running shit over there-

   7. JCJared Cannonier30:20

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      ... when he had that fight with Cyborg. Like, when Nick Diaz had that, uh, that-

   9. JCJared Cannonier30:26

      That fight with, uh-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       ... crazy fight with Paul Daley.

   11. JCJared Cannonier30:28

       Yeah, with Daley.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       Insane fight with Paul Daley.

   13. JCJared Cannonier30:30

       Yep. And with Robbie Lawler.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       And then with Frank Shamrock and Robbie Lawler.

   15. JCJared Cannonier30:33

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah, Robbie Lawler fighting Melvin Manhoef over there.

   17. JCJared Cannonier30:37

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Remember that one?

   19. JCJared Cannonier30:37

       I remember that one. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       See, though, like, you could say that, like, the l- and when-

   21. JCJared Cannonier30:41

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       ... when Luke Rockhold was the champ over there, and then became the champ in the UFC, you could say the, like, the level of fighter at, in Strikeforce at the very peak-

   23. JCJared Cannonier30:49

       Was at the level.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       ... it was at the same level of the UFC.

   25. JCJared Cannonier30:52

       ... ... of the UFC fight, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       Like Josh Thompson was over there.

   27. JCJared Cannonier30:53

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       It was at the very same level. It was just elite.

   29. JCJared Cannonier30:56

       I mean, we just got through watching that, uh-

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       I guess so.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Were you really? …

   1. JCJared Cannonier45:00

      when I fought, uh, Vettori.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Were you really?

   3. JCJared Cannonier45:03

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Is that-

   5. JCJared Cannonier45:04

      That's the most that I've put on.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Yeah?

   7. JCJared Cannonier45:06

      Yeah. That's the most.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Did you do it on purpose, or is it just, it just happened?

   9. JCJared Cannonier45:09

      No, it just happened. I didn't do anything in- intentionally. I just ... The only thing I did intentionally was prepare, uh, a, like a big jug of tea.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JCJared Cannonier45:18

       With some electrolytes and stuff in it that I carried around with me. Uh, that was the first time I've done that. And I-

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       Do you, when you do something like that, do you sip it slowly when you first start taking it in? 'Cause you're dehydrated for, like, how long?

   13. JCJared Cannonier45:30

       I don't sip slow. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       (laughs) I get it.

   15. JCJared Cannonier45:33

       Hell no. No, 'cause I cut the night of. That's the most dehydrated I am. I cut the night of late that night, so I can just try to go to sleep and then wake up and go to the early weigh-ins.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JCJared Cannonier45:43

       And that's how I do it. And I wake up and, if I need to cut extra, there's still time to cut, 'cause I wake up early.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Hmm.

   19. JCJared Cannonier45:50

       I can't sleep the night of a weight cut, so.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       That makes sense. Yeah, I've heard different people, th- th- do it different ways. But I think people are realizing now it's better to just get up early.

   21. JCJared Cannonier46:00

       To get up early and do it?

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Yeah.

   23. JCJared Cannonier46:01

       I think it would be better, you know what I mean?

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Yeah, you wanna sleep.

   25. JCJared Cannonier46:03

       You just wake up-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Yeah, you wanna sleep hydrated.

   27. JCJared Cannonier46:05

       You definitely wanna sleep hydrated. And I'm-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       'Cause otherwise you're missing a night of sleep, for real.

   29. JCJared Cannonier46:08

       No, you're absolutely right, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Yeah. It's like-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:24

   You know what I…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. JCJared Cannonier1:00:00

      You know what I mean? Uh, and this is something I tell people all the time, you know, I don't think of this as a job. It is a career and I do get paid and it, it is my livelihood, but I don't approach it as my job or anything, like I have to go to work now. You know, this is something that me fighting is only merely a part of my training. You know what I mean? It's like the test you take. You know what I mean? Every couple of weeks you take a test in school or you challenge yourself somehow and that's the, that's, for me, that's what this is. This is the challenge. Marvin Vettori is the challenge. Israel Adesanya is the challenge. And my, and...... I'm here to, to conquer these challenges, you know what I mean? To-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

      That's a beautiful approach. So-

   4. JCJared Cannonier1:00:41

      Tha- that's why your fights are the best.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

      ... that's probably why you just keep getting better. That's why you keep getting re- it's, it's a fantastic mindset-

   6. JCJared Cannonier1:00:46

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

      ... for, uh, an elite fighter.

   8. JCJared Cannonier1:00:48

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

      The c- mon- mindset of constant growth, constant improvement.

   10. JCJared Cannonier1:00:50

       I'm always trying to learn. That's the only thing, that's the love of, that's the thing I love about it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Yeah.

   12. JCJared Cannonier1:00:54

       'Cause I get to go into study, you know what I mean?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Mm-hmm. Right.

   14. JCJared Cannonier1:00:59

       So, something that I want to learn. Something that I want to dissect, and analyze, and break down, and not only do it with my mind, but do it with my body as well. That's, that's something you can't really do a lot, you know what I'm saying? Operate-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:12

       Yeah.

   16. JCJared Cannonier1:01:13

       ... a field of, a field of thought with your mind and your body.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       Well, it's also very impressive and very, um, inspirational to people that you're doing it at like, I think you're 39 now? You're 39?

   18. JCJared Cannonier1:01:25

       Yeah. 39.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       You're getting, you're getting better at an elite athlete's level.

   20. JCJared Cannonier1:01:30

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       Like, you're getting better at i- uh, one of the most difficult jobs.

   22. JCJared Cannonier1:01:34

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       For, uh, like, uh, combat sport athletes, w- that's one of the hardest fucking jobs on earth.

   24. JCJared Cannonier1:01:38

       Yeah. Well, that's, um-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       In terms, f- uh, ter- terms of, like, physical demands, like, what's-

   26. JCJared Cannonier1:01:41

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       And you're getting better at 39. It's amazing.

   28. JCJared Cannonier1:01:43

       Well, you know, I've mitigated a lot of the wear and tear through my years. I didn't grow up, you know, jumping big hills on bicycles and shit like that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:51

       (laughs)

   30. JCJared Cannonier1:01:51

       And, uh, or anything like that. Um, on top of that, um, I find my body to be valuable, so I didn't like grow up destroying my body or anything like that. When I got into, when I fir- when I finally started training, I was like 25 years old in, in, uh, in Alaska, so I got into it relatively late. I didn't grow up doing martial arts or anything like that, so. Um, I wouldn't say that I regret it, but I would like it to be the other way around. I would've loved to have done martial arts as a child.

Episode duration: 2:09:41