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JRE MMA Show #145 with Terence Crawford

Joe sits down with Terence Crawford, a three-time World Boxing Organization Champion, two-time lineal champion, and undisputed champion with titles from the World Boxing Association, International Boxing Federation, World Boxing Organization, and World Boxing Council. www.tbudcrawford.com

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Jun 26, 20242h 3mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Terence Crawford Reflects On Masterclass Win, Legacy And Boxing’s Future

  1. Terence Crawford joins Joe Rogan to break down his dominant win over Errol Spence Jr., detailing the years-long business and political battle to finally make the fight and the strategic choices that led to his performance. He explains how switching stances, minimal film study, and deep trust in his coaches shaped his style, and why mental toughness from a rough upbringing fuels his drive. Crawford lays out his ambitions to chase all‑time‑great status by moving up three weight classes to fight Canelo Alvarez and become undisputed in a third division. The conversation also dives into fighter pay, sanctioning bodies, health, and why boxing and MMA athletes deserve structural protection like pensions and unions.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Crawford’s Spence performance was the culmination of years of blocked negotiations and calculated patience.

He describes chasing Spence for about five years, leaving Top Rank, and personally contacting Spence to bypass managers when talks kept stalling over what Crawford saw as unfair business terms.

His ‘masterclass’ style comes from drilling scenarios and adjusting in real time, not obsessive film study.

Crawford watches only a couple of fights per opponent, lets his coaches build the game plan, and prides himself on making reads and adjustments on the fly during the fight.

Switch-hitting is a weapon he developed deliberately and against advice, now central to his dominance.

Early on, his coach tried to stop him from switching stances, but once he kept winning that way, they built camp around training both orthodox and southpaw, giving him power and options in either stance.

Crawford is now motivated almost entirely by legacy, especially a historic jump to fight Canelo at 168.

He says he’s financially set and could retire, but wants unprecedented greatness: becoming undisputed in a third division by jumping from 147 to 168 to fight the Canelo–Charlo winner.

He believes boxing’s structure is broken and fighters need systemic protections.

Crawford criticizes sanctioning bodies for taking 2–3% of purses, calls for fewer belts, more transparency in drug testing, and says fighters should have pensions, unions, health insurance, and 401(k)-style plans.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

“They was calling Errol Spence the Boogeyman. My reply was, ‘How is he the Boogeyman when I’m chasing him?’”

Terence Crawford

“I never wanted boxing to retire me. My goal was always to retire at 33.”

Terence Crawford

“I’m doing this for legacy. If it’s not Canelo or undisputed again, I don’t really have nothing to prove.”

Terence Crawford

“We paying for the belts. I’m paying you to make me a belt. Why do I gotta pay to be champion?”

Terence Crawford

“You don’t know the injuries I had to overcome in training camp… They see things right now. They don’t see the years I had to do just to get to this point.”

Terence Crawford

Crawford’s dominance over Errol Spence Jr. and the five-year road to that fightStyle, strategy and stance-switching: how Crawford prepares and thinks in the ringLegacy goals: undisputed in three weight classes and a potential Canelo fightBusiness politics in boxing: negotiations, sanctioning bodies, and fighter payHealth, training, weight cutting, and recovery practicesMindset, upbringing, and using doubt and criticism as motivationComparisons between boxing and MMA, including UFC structure and crossover fights

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