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JRE MMA Show #145 with Terence Crawford

Joe sits down with Terence Crawford, a three-time World Boxing Organization Champion, two-time lineal champion, and undisputed champion with titles from the World Boxing Association, International Boxing Federation, World Boxing Organization, and World Boxing Council. www.tbudcrawford.com

Joe RoganhostTerence Crawfordguest
Jun 27, 20242h 3mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Crawford’s Spence masterclass and long-overdue recognition

    Joe and Terence open by reflecting on Crawford’s dominant win over Errol Spence Jr. and how the performance finally forced mainstream recognition. They discuss why big boxing matchups are hard to make and what it means to be viewed as pound-for-pound #1.

  2. Why the Spence fight took five years: leaving Top Rank and negotiating fairness

    Crawford explains the behind-the-scenes business obstacles that delayed the Spence fight for years. He describes walking away from negotiations, taking another fight, then directly coordinating with Spence to push the deal across the finish line.

  3. ‘Boogeyman’ narratives, opponents’ reputations, and being doubted until it’s undeniable

    They dig into how public narratives can diminish elite fighters when they make opponents look ordinary. Crawford compares his experience to Roy Jones Jr.—dominance becomes its own source of skepticism until a marquee win erases debate.

  4. Minimal film study and in-fight adaptation as a core strategy

    Crawford describes why he doesn’t obsess over opponent tape, preferring to adjust live in the ring. He explains how coaches study tendencies and deliver a plan, while he relies on feel, timing, and adaptability.

  5. Switch-hitting mastery: choosing southpaw, childhood hand injury, and tactical advantages

    Joe praises Crawford’s stance switching and Crawford explains how he decided to open southpaw against Spence—partly in the dressing room. He recounts how a childhood hand injury accelerated southpaw development and how switching helps cut off movement and create traps.

  6. Round-by-round feel: turning up the heat, setting traps, and assessing Spence’s power

    They revisit key moments of the fight: the early feeling-out phase, the knockdowns, and Crawford’s shift to pressure and smothering. Crawford breaks down baiting Spence into shots, taking calculated risks, and his surprise at Spence’s power profile.

  7. What’s next: chasing historic three-division undisputed and the Canelo-at-168 idea

    Crawford lays out the post-Spence ambition: potentially becoming undisputed in a third weight class, even eyeing 168 pounds for Canelo/Charlo. They discuss the scale of the jump, time to bulk, and why Crawford sees it as the biggest fight in boxing.

  8. Training camp structure: swimming, light weights, and confidence in skill over size

    Joe asks about conditioning and weight management; Crawford details a broad routine including running, swimming, plyometrics, and lighter lifting for speed/endurance. He emphasizes that elite boxing is about skill, timing, and making opponents respect power regardless of weight.

  9. Diet quirks and recovery: no beef/pork, candy in camp, colon cleanse, and cold plunge horror

    The conversation turns personal: Crawford’s diet restrictions, sugar habits during training, and a surprising story about quitting beef after digestive/back issues. They also cover recovery tools like massage and NormaTec, plus his first cold plunge experience and being anemic.

  10. Legacy, motivation, and upbringing: mom’s toughness, anger issues, and staying authentic

    Crawford explains how criticism motivates him and connects it to a childhood shaped by extreme competitiveness and tough love from his mother. He discusses early anger problems, the discipline he developed, and why he refuses to adopt a trash-talking persona for money.

  11. Boxing’s business problems: belts, fees, pensions, unions—and UFC pay comparisons

    They compare boxing and MMA business structures, including how centralized control in the UFC is both a benefit and a drawback. Crawford argues boxing needs fewer belts, more transparency, and fighter protections like pensions/401Ks/health insurance, then critiques sanctioning-body fees.

  12. Modern boxing landscape: Pacquiao fight that got away, new stars, and matchmaking frustrations

    Crawford reflects on missing the Pacquiao opportunity and how timing affects legacy compared to earlier eras like Floyd’s. They discuss rising talents (Boots Ennis, Shakur, Devin Haney, Tank), controversial decisions, and why elite matchmaking often stalls.

  13. MMA crossover reality check: weight cutting, kicks, Ngannou–Fury, and why wrestling changes everything

    They explore the brutality of MMA weight cuts, pay structures, and why Crawford won’t switch sports—especially because of kicks and elbows. The segment includes Ngannou vs Fury skepticism, Ali vs Inoki as a cautionary tale, and a deep respect for wrestling’s dominance in real fights.

  14. Camp management details: sparring schedule, weight-cut timing, and peaking at the right moment

    Crawford explains how he spars, how hard sparring is balanced, and why coaches must sometimes force rest. He outlines his approach to gradual weight cutting, avoiding last-day dehydration, and how the team monitored readiness—plus a brief fight-week cold scare.

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