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Lewis HowesDOCTOR REVEALS 4 Essential Foods YOU NEED To Eat To LIVE LONGER |Dr. Rhonda Patrick & Lewis Howes
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Dr. Rhonda Patrick on Diet, Immunity, Inflammation, Depression and Vitamin D
- Patrick explains that psychological stress raises cortisol and both suppresses immune function and drives inflammation, and that the gut microbiome, fed by diverse fermentable fibers, helps regulate immune cells.
- She describes the four foods she would eat at every meal: wild Alaskan salmon, sautéed dark leafy greens like kale, blueberries and avocado, citing omega-3s, sulforaphane, lutein and zeaxanthin as the reasons.
- On meat versus plant diets, she says epidemiological studies show meat eaters with healthy lifestyles have similar mortality to vegetarians, and that genetics, obesity and processed meat complicate the evidence.
- She links obesity, refined sugar and low-grade inflammation to depression and low energy, and says exercise, diet change and in some cases long fasts can help.
- She recommends vitamin D, fish oil and a multivitamin, and lays out evidence and a hypothesis that vitamin D status may affect COVID-19 severity, while stressing there is no direct evidence it prevents or treats it.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasStress weakens immunity while also driving inflammation
Patrick says psychological stress raises cortisol, which depresses immune function, even as stress also causes inflammation. Sleep and diet also affect immune function.
Diverse fermentable fiber feeds immune-regulating gut bacteria
Gut bacteria ferment fibers from foods like blueberries, nuts, mushrooms, greens, onions and garlic into short-chain fatty acids that signal T cells, including regulatory T cells. Different foods feed different bacteria, so variety matters.
Whole foods work as a package that supplements can't fully replace
Patrick describes a micronutrient bar study from her postdoc work in which benefits shrank when the fiber matrix was removed. She still takes a multivitamin and fish oil as insurance.
Meat's health effects depend heavily on lifestyle and genetics
She says meat eaters who are not obese, don't smoke, are active and don't drink excessively had the same mortality as vegetarians. She cautions that processed meat contains nitrites and that red meat's links to type 2 diabetes appeared mainly in people with high BMI.
Blood glucose responses are individual, and refined carbs are the main thing to avoid
A large Weizmann Institute study found people responded differently to the same foods based on genetics, microbiome and activity. Patrick wearing a glucose monitor found grapes and packaged snacks spiked her glucose, and says eating protein or fiber first can blunt the response.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesScience is the changing of it.
— Dr. Rhonda Patrick
Exercise is one of the best anti-inflammatory medicines you can get, period.
— Dr. Rhonda Patrick
A little bit of stress gives you a lot of good stuff, right?
— Dr. Rhonda Patrick
We used to think, again, the brain was separate from the body and that, you know, the immune system and, and all that didn't af- didn't, you know, affect the brain. Turns out that was all wrong. ... absolutely wrong.
— Dr. Rhonda Patrick
I think my definition of greatness is honesty. I think that, that is the most important. Honesty, just pure honesty, period.
— Dr. Rhonda Patrick
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Dr. Rhonda Patrick
guestBiomedical scientist and health educator, known for the FoundMyFitness platform focused on nutrition, longevity, and wellness research.
Lewis Howes
hostHost of The School of Greatness podcast and interviewer focused on self-improvement and high-performance conversations.
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