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How To REWIRE Your Mind To Stop Stressing & Handle Anything | Dr. Tara Narula

🔔 Subscribe for more great content: https://www.youtube.com/lewishowes ▶️ Recommended for you: https://youtu.be/nc9zPwbYDAI Stress can give you a real heart attack even when your arteries are perfectly healthy. Doctors call it broken heart syndrome, and it can follow losing someone you love or even winning the lottery. Dr. Tara Narula, a board certified cardiologist and chief medical correspondent for ABC News, sat down with Lewis and shared what her patients say when she asks how they are. Almost nobody mentions blood pressure. They tell her they are overwhelmed, and many of them cry. She knows that fear from the inside. At 22, in medical school, she lost vision in part of her right eye and spent the first weeks reading every stumble as proof of something worse. A note card from her mom with the Serenity Prayer pulled her out of the spiral. In The Healing Power of Resilience she lays out eight tools, and she walks Lewis through acceptance and flexible thinking, then makes the case for purpose and real social connection. She also explains why burnout is the final phase of chronic stress, and why a study across 52 countries found chronically stressed people are twice as likely to have a heart attack. You will finish this one wanting to call a friend for coffee and start practicing resilience before you need it. The Healing Power of Resilience: A New Prescription for Health and Well-Being https://amzn.to/4gHD0SH Dr. Tara's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drtaranarula/?hl=en Listen to this episode on the go! 🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-school-of-greatness/id596047499 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/07GQhOZboEZOE1ysnFLipT?si=a03d916bade54d4f For more info about this episode, go to https://lewishowes.com/1992 💰 get my NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING book "Make Money Easy" today!https://lewishowes.com/moneyyou 📙 get my NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING book "The Greatness Mindset" today! https://lewishowes.com/gmyo 📤 sign up for my FREE newsletter https://lewishowes.com/greatnessdelivered Follow Lewis! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lewishowes/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lewis Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lewishowes/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LewisHowes 💻 Website: http://lewishowes.com/ 📲 For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960 Get More Greatness! Greatness Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@GreatnessClips Spanish: https://www.youtube.com/@LewisHowesEspañol Portuguese: https://www.youtube.com/@LewisHowesPortugues Lewis Howes Shorts: https://www.youtube.com/@lewishowesshorts 00:00 - The Epidemic of Chronic Stress 03:29 - How Stress Causes Physical Pain 07:34 - Main Causes of Heart Attacks 16:42 - Dr. Narula’s Personal Health Scare 27:48 - The Danger of Victim Identity 32:48 - The Healing Power of Faith 39:29 - How News Rewires Your Brain 51:48 - 3 Strategies to Build Resilience 56:24 - #1 Habit to Heal Faster 01:03:51 - Can Grief Literally Kill You? 01:05:23 - Releasing Trauma & Finding Peace 01:11:46 - Three Truths on Greatness Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. #greatness #inspiration #motivation

Dr. Tara NarulaguestLewis Howeshost
Oct 12, 20261h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:29

    Chronic stress as a major health threat and the burnout cycle

    Dr. Tara Narula explains that the body’s stress response is meant for short bursts of survival, but becomes damaging when it stays chronically “turned on.” She outlines a classic three-phase stress pattern—alarm, resistance, and exhaustion—and connects prolonged stress to chronic illness and burnout.

    • •Stress response is adaptive in acute danger but harmful when activated all day, every day
    • •Chronic stress keeps people in a “dialed to 10” physiological state
    • •A three-phase model of stress is described: alarm, resistance, then exhaustion
    • •Burnout is framed as the stage where people become chronically sick from sustained stress
  2. 3:29 – 6:46

    Why patients come in “stressed, depressed, anxious” and the missing link in medicine

    Lewis Howes asks what most patients really bring into a cardiology visit, and Dr. Narula says it’s often emotional overwhelm rather than lab numbers. She describes the value of giving patients a safe space to unload, and argues that medicine often fails to integrate mental and psychological well-being into care.

    • •Dr. Narula says patients commonly lead with stress, depression, anxiety, and overwhelm
    • •She describes how listening and allowing vulnerability can be profoundly meaningful for patients
    • •She argues medical care often separates mental well-being from physical treatment
    • •She emphasizes that mental suffering can block follow-through on tests, medications, and self-care
  3. 6:46 – 7:34

    Therapy as part of cardiovascular care and the access problem

    Dr. Narula explains why she routinely encourages therapy, not only for diagnosed mental health conditions but as a place to “download” and decompress. She also describes barriers patients face when trying to find affordable, available mental health support.

    • •She describes validating patients and normalizing that it’s okay to not be okay
    • •She says simply communicating feelings can dial down the stress response
    • •She emphasizes referring patients to therapy as part of supporting heart health
    • •She describes a shortage of mental health practitioners, long waits, and high costs
  4. 7:34 – 8:09

    Heart attack and stroke risk factors—and how stress can directly trigger events

    Lewis asks about the main causes of heart attacks and strokes, and Dr. Narula lists common cardiovascular risk factors while highlighting stress and mental health as major contributors. She explains that stress can provoke cardiac events both by affecting hormones and by destabilizing plaque.

    • •Risk factors discussed include age, family history, blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes, smoking, weight, exercise, sleep, and stress/mental health
    • •Dr. Narula says she asks patients about stress level and diagnoses like depression, anxiety, and PTSD
    • •She describes stress-induced heart attack as a real cardiology entity
    • •She explains stress can sometimes rupture plaque, contributing to heart attack, stroke, arrhythmia, or sudden death
  5. 8:09 – 16:41

    Takotsubo (stress-induced) cardiomyopathy and why the stress response needs an “off switch”

    Dr. Narula details how a massive hormone surge can “stun” the heart even when arteries look relatively healthy, describing the ballooning appearance associated with takotsubo cardiomyopathy. She then returns to the purpose of the stress response and why repeated activation pushes the body away from homeostasis toward exhaustion.

    • •She explains adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol surges can impair heart contraction and cause heart failure or arrhythmia
    • •She notes most people recover, but some can die; she also notes it’s seen predominantly in older women
    • •She emphasizes stress isn’t just a concept—she says it can literally cause a heart attack
    • •She explains the stress response raises heart rate/blood pressure/breathing while turning off non-essentials like digestion and reproduction
  6. 16:41 – 24:32

    Dr. Narula’s personal health scare at 22 and the trauma of uncertainty

    Dr. Narula shares a turning point from medical school, when she lost vision in part of one eye and faced years of follow-up MRIs without clear answers. She describes spiraling into fear and hypervigilance, and connects this to how patients react when they receive frightening diagnoses.

    • •She describes seeing unusual lights in a lecture hall and later failing a visual field exam
    • •She recounts being told possibilities like multiple sclerosis or stroke, and needing yearly brain MRIs for five years
    • •She describes early months of fear where normal sensations felt like confirmation something was wrong
    • •She argues a medical diagnosis can be a form of trauma that flips a person’s life overnight
  7. 24:32 – 32:29

    Serenity Prayer, role models, and breaking free from a victim identity

    After the sponsor break, Dr. Narula explains what helped her move forward: the Serenity Prayer message of accepting what can’t be changed and changing what can be changed, plus inspiration from a memoir about living through illness. She and Lewis discuss how identifying as a victim can make recovery harder, and she shares examples of patients who healed by acceptance and social support.

    • •She quotes the Serenity Prayer lines her mother sent and describes taking them to heart
    • •She describes reading Richard Cohen’s book and drawing strength from his approach to illness and identity
    • •She warns against being defined entirely by disease or diagnosis
    • •She shares a patient story where acceptance and friends helped someone adjust after becoming nearly blind from a complication
  8. 32:29 – 39:29

    Faith and spirituality as resilience tools that can calm the stress response

    Lewis asks about spiritual belief and healing, and Dr. Narula says spirituality is often under-discussed in medicine despite its importance to patients. She describes taking a spiritual history as increasingly recognized in healthcare and explains how practices like prayer can help dial down the stress response.

    • •Dr. Narula says spirituality can inform care preferences, including end-of-life decisions
    • •She says many patients tell her faith is what pulled them through difficult times
    • •She references a body of literature suggesting prayer and belief can support healing mindset
    • •She connects prayer and similar practices to activating the calming parasympathetic nervous system
  9. 39:29 – 51:44

    News, screens, and social media: stress, comparison, and parenting boundaries

    Dr. Narula and Lewis discuss how the news, politics, screens, and social media are frequent stress triggers. Dr. Narula describes strict boundaries in her home around phones and social media, and they explore how constant dopamine-driven stimulation and comparison can affect attention, self-worth, and stress—especially for kids.

    • •Dr. Narula says patients frequently cite news and politics as major stressors
    • •Lewis describes avoiding fear-based news and preferring less emotionally activating formats
    • •Dr. Narula describes not allowing her children to have social media; her 14-year-old does not have a phone
    • •She says screens can change brain “wiring and firing,” and social comparison can make young people feel not good enough
  10. 51:44 – 56:23

    Three resilience strategies for raising kids: acceptance, flexible thinking, and purpose

    Lewis asks for three key practices to raise resilient children, and Dr. Narula distills her broader framework into three tools. She explains acceptance as acknowledging adversity will happen, flexible thinking as “moving goalposts” when life changes, and purpose as a “lighthouse” that pulls people forward in dark moments.

    • •She emphasizes acceptance and the idea that adversity doesn’t discriminate
    • •She highlights flexible thinking using the image of moving goalposts and painting a new picture of life
    • •She frames purpose as a lighthouse that provides direction when things feel unbearable
    • •She adds that other tools also matter, including love/social support, hope, and facing fear (including therapy approaches she mentions)
  11. 56:23 – 1:03:51

    The #1 habit to heal faster: real social connection and daily micro-moments

    Asked what people can practice daily to become more resilient and heal faster, Dr. Narula points to real-world social connection as the easiest place to start. She describes small, practical forms of connection—from friends and groups to brief interactions—and ties them to stress relief and overall well-being.

    • •She distinguishes real social connection from social media interaction
    • •She suggests joining groups, meeting friends, walking with someone, or even brief friendly exchanges with strangers
    • •She notes city life can reduce everyday connection as people avoid interaction even in close quarters
    • •She describes “micro moments” that dial down stress, including touch, nature, and small experiences of peace
  12. 1:03:51 – 1:05:23

    Can grief literally kill you? Broken heart syndrome and the biology of extreme emotion

    Lewis asks whether someone can die from a broken heart, and Dr. Narula connects this directly to stress-induced heart attack (broken heart syndrome). She explains how intense grief can trigger a hormonal cascade that stuns the heart, and emphasizes the importance of learning and practicing resilience before a crisis hits.

    • •She identifies broken heart syndrome as the same stress-induced condition discussed earlier
    • •She says it can occur during grieving after a spouse or partner dies, and not everyone recovers
    • •She describes a brain-to-adrenal hormone pathway that releases epinephrine/adrenaline/norepinephrine/cortisol
    • •She underscores that resilience skills work best when built and practiced before they’re urgently needed
  13. 1:05:23 – 1:18:44

    Releasing stress-held pain through therapy, then three truths and a definition of greatness

    Lewis shares an experience of intense relationship stress that felt like chronic chest tightness, which suddenly resolved during a breakthrough in therapy. Dr. Narula explains that stress can cause real chest symptoms without obvious disease findings, and they close with her “Three Truths” (love, purpose, gratitude) and her view of greatness as authenticity, acceptance, and being a light for others.

    • •Lewis describes years of relationship-linked chest tightness that disappeared after an emotional/mental shift in therapy
    • •Dr. Narula says stress can cause chest pain/pressure and may involve small vessel dysfunction or vessel spasm
    • •She frames therapy and approaches like CBT/ACT as ways to change responses, reduce fear, and improve quality of life
    • •Her three truths focus on love, pursuing passion/purpose, and practicing gratitude; she defines greatness as authentic self-acceptance and being a healer for others

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