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Lewis HowesHow To SPOT A Narcissist When DATING! (Watch Out For This)| Ramani Durvasula & Lewis Howes
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Dr. Ramani Durvasula Explains Narcissism, Red Flags, Gaslighting and Surviving Narcissistic Relationships
- Durvasula traces the rise of narcissism awareness to social media, reality TV and materialism, and explains that adult narcissism grows from a difficult childhood temperament combined with trauma, overvaluation, conditional love or insecure attachment.
- She distinguishes narcissists, who are insecure and driven by shame, from psychopaths, who lack anxiety and empathy, and describes subtypes such as grandiose and malignant narcissism.
- She lays out the narcissistic relationship cycle of love bombing, devaluing, discard, hoovering and future faking, along with gaslighting as a grooming process.
- For people who cannot leave, she recommends radical acceptance, the DEEP technique and a 'true north' for choosing fights, while saying no contact gives the best outcomes.
- She contrasts narcissistic dynamics with healthy relationships built on kindness, reciprocity and the Michelangelo phenomenon, and she and Lewis Howes discuss authenticity, self-worth and their own vulnerabilities.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasNarcissism comes from temperament meeting environment.
Durvasula says a difficult childhood temperament is a risk factor, and trauma, overvaluation, conditional love and anxious attachment can add to it. Most people exposed to these risks do not become narcissistic.
Narcissists are insecure and self-loathing, not self-loving.
She describes grandiosity and entitlement as a suit of armor over deep inadequacy and shame, which is why they react to criticism with rage. Psychopaths, by contrast, are not anxious or insecure.
Narcissistic empathy is instrumental.
Narcissists understand empathy cognitively and use it to build rapport and get what they need. They have no regard for others' feelings once they are done with you.
Charm and love bombing are the opening move.
She describes a cycle of love bombing, devaluing, discard, hoovering and future faking. The early intensity keeps people from noticing red flags, and she advises detecting it and setting boundaries early.
Trying to fix or argue with a narcissist backfires.
She says narcissists want the fight and bait people into it, so she recommends DEEP: don't defend, engage, explain or personalize. She also advises saving confrontation for your 'true north' values.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesEvery relationship with a narcissist is a threesome, you just don't know it, because they always need that third person in the relationship.
— Dr. Ramani Durvasula
There are no such things as scorpions that hug. And so, you know, once you see a scorpion, it's gonna sting you, so walk the other way. And once it stings you once, don't pick it up again.
— Dr. Ramani Durvasula
As soon as you put love and if in the same sentence, you're screwed.
— Dr. Ramani Durvasula
This is a disorder of self-loathing. All that inadequacy and ugly insecurity, they hate themselves.
— Dr. Ramani Durvasula
If someone else is cruel to you, it's not your fault. You came into this world lovable and will always be lovable.
— Dr. Ramani Durvasula
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SPEAKERS
Dr. Ramani Durvasula
guestClinical psychologist and narcissism expert known for research/clinical work and public education on narcissistic relationships.
Lewis Howes
hostHost of The School of Greatness and author who interviews guests on personal growth, relationships, and mental health.
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