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Lex Fridman PodcastKelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love | Lex Fridman Podcast #230
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Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- October 14, 2021
- Duration
- 4h 6m
- Channel
- Lex Fridman Podcast
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Kelsi Sheren is a veteran, artillery gunner, and founder of Brass and Unity. Note from Lex: I'm aware that Jocko temporarily took down his conversation with Kelsi to remove the names of some of the people involved in order to protect their and their family's privacy. I did the same. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS: Kelsi's Twitter: https://twitter.com/kelsiburns Kelsi's Website: https://brassandunity.com Kelsi's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelsie_sheren Charity: https://www.heroicheartsproject.org/ Do the F*cking Work (book): https://amzn.to/3mGhguF Notes from Underground (book): https://amzn.to/3mN5TRF Brothers in Arms (song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 0:45 - World War II 11:48 - Yeonmi Park, starvation, and mental health 26:04 - Kelsi's 9/11 experience 29:34 - Becoming a soldier 36:01 - Artillery: The Hand of God 45:44 - Weapons training 1:03:29 - Pre-Deployment 1:19:36 - Arrival to Afghanistan 1:41:49 - Tragic war story 2:06:54 - Feelings after tragedy 2:10:36 - The Taliban 2:16:12 - Retrospective: 20 years in Afghanistan 2:32:51 - How war changes people 2:38:13 - PTSD 3:07:07 - Ayahuasca and mental recovery 3:39:04 - Love 3:57:07 - Advice for young people 4:00:27 - Death SOCIAL:
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SPEAKERS
Lex Fridman
hostKelsi Sheren
guestGuest (brief aside)
guestGuest (very brief interjection)
guest
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Lex Fridman Podcast, featuring Lex Fridman and Kelsi Sheren, Kelsi Sheren: War, Artillery, PTSD, and Love | Lex Fridman Podcast #230 explores Afghanistan Gunner Confronts War’s Trauma, Healing, and Hard Questions Lex Fridman speaks with Canadian veteran and former artillery gunner Kelsi Sheren about her deployment to Afghanistan at 19, the brutality of modern war, and the lasting impact of severe PTSD. They explore historical evil in World War II, the psychology of following dictators, and contemporary atrocities in places like North Korea and under the Taliban. Kelsi gives detailed, visceral accounts of artillery operations, IED attacks, the death of a fellow soldier, and how those experiences shattered her sense of humanity. She then describes her long road through medication, depression, psychedelics, and building her company Brass & Unity to support veterans as a way to reclaim purpose, love, and mental health.
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