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The Mel Robbins Podcast#1 Mindset Expert: Simple Mindset Shifts That Transform Your Body, Energy, & Life
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Stanford Mindset Expert Reveals How Beliefs Reshape Health And Behavior
- Mel Robbins interviews Dr. Alia Crum, a Stanford psychologist and head of the Mind & Body Lab, about how core mindsets—our mental “settings”—directly shape perception, emotions, motivation, and even physiology.
- Crum explains that mindsets are not objectively true or false, but powerful, oversimplified beliefs (e.g., “stress is harmful,” “healthy food is depriving,” “my body can’t be trusted”) that literally help create our lived reality.
- Using research on placebo effects, cancer treatment, weight loss, and her famous Milkshake Study, she shows that what we *believe* about food, medicine, stress, and our bodies can amplify or blunt their real physical effects.
- The conversation concludes with practical guidance: identify current settings, deliberately choose more useful ones (e.g., “indulgence” with food, “my body is capable,” “this is manageable”), and recognize that mindsets are changeable, learnable skills.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasMindsets are adjustable 'settings' that shape your reality by design.
They’re not facts but core judgments (e.g., the world is dangerous/ safe; my body is weak/capable) that filter what you notice, how you feel, what you do, and how your body responds. Once you see them as settings, you can consciously change them.
Your beliefs can enhance or diminish the effects of real treatments.
In migraine research, the same drug worked better when people believed it was the real medication, and a placebo labeled as the drug worked almost as well. The overall impact is always *drug plus mindset*, not one or the other.
Adopt 'mind and matter,' not 'mind over matter,' for health.
Crum emphasizes taking the best available medical care *and* cultivating helpful beliefs about your illness, treatment, and body—especially mindsets like “this is manageable” and “my body is capable” in conditions like cancer.
What you believe about food changes how your body metabolizes it.
In the Milkshake Study, people drinking the *same* 350-calorie shake had a threefold greater drop in the hunger hormone ghrelin when they believed it was a rich, indulgent 620-calorie shake versus a 140-calorie 'diet' shake.
Shift from a restraint mindset to an indulgence mindset with eating.
Seeing healthy foods as “disgusting but necessary” keeps your body in a state of deprivation and hunger. Intentionally viewing meals—salads included—as enjoyable, satisfying, and indulgent helps your body register 'enough' and reduces struggle with food.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesMindsets are quite literally settings of the mind.
— Dr. Alia Crum
These mindsets are not true or false. They’re oversimplified, highly evaluative judgments—but they matter in shaping our lives.
— Dr. Alia Crum
The total effect of anything we do is a combined effect of what's actually in it and what you believe to be true about it.
— Dr. Alia Crum
It no longer needs to be, 'Is it mind over matter?' No, it’s mind and matter.
— Dr. Alia Crum
At any given moment, at any given time, you have the power to flip the switch.
— Dr. Alia Crum
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