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The Mel Robbins PodcastShould You Trust Your Gut Instinct? | The Mel Robbins Podcast
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Why gut decisions feel hard: other people’s voices vs. your clarity
Mel sets up the core problem: it’s not that you lack instincts, it’s that you’re overly attuned to how decisions will affect others. She introduces the goal of the episode—finding clarity and quiet so you can hear what’s right for you.
- •Decision-making gets hijacked by worrying about others’ opinions and feelings
- •The real challenge is tuning out noise to access internal clarity
- •This episode will focus on how gut signals show up and how to follow them
- •College decisions are used as a relatable example of high-stakes choice
Mel’s spring break reality: college tours and an uncomfortable self-reveal
Instead of a relaxing vacation, Mel spends spring break touring colleges with her junior-year son. She admits she wasn’t on her best behavior and frames the week as a crash course in how outside influence can override inner truth.
- •Spring break becomes a week of New England college tours
- •Mel notices “ugly traits” (control, over-involvement) in herself
- •College tours highlight how big decisions attract outside opinions
- •The week becomes a live experiment in gut instinct vs. influence
A pivotal junior-year memory: discovering Dartmouth—and being doubted
Mel recounts touring Ivy League schools in 1985 and instantly knowing Dartmouth felt right. A math teacher’s dismissive comment nearly could’ve derailed her, illustrating how a single outside voice can shape (or shake) your path.
- •Mel’s intuitive ‘this is it’ moment upon arriving at Dartmouth
- •Small-town context: few students left the state, no internet, limited info
- •Teacher warns her not to get her hopes up—social pressure and doubt
- •Mel uses skepticism as fuel and gets in early decision
Present day: when your kid tours your alma mater and you become ‘that parent’
Mel describes how she was laid-back with her older kids’ college searches—until her son Oakley mentioned Dartmouth. She confesses how quickly her identity, nostalgia, and personal redemption story started steering the tour and pressuring him.
- •Mel attempts to influence Oakley despite his clear preferences
- •Oakley’s interest in Dartmouth triggers Mel’s intense emotional investment
- •Mel projects a ‘redemption’ narrative onto his potential experience
- •Chris intervenes to help Mel back off and let Oakley lead
The power leak: “What do you think?” and how we give away our decisions
Oakley turns around on the tour and asks Mel what she thinks—becoming the central metaphor of the episode. Mel argues that this reflex is where we lose power, because we outsource decisions we’re the ones who must live with.
- •The reflex to seek approval replaces honest self-assessment
- •Outsourcing decisions weakens your agency and self-trust
- •Your decision must fit your life—not others’ comfort
- •Noticing the ‘what do you think?’ moment is the first step to change
Oakley maps the body signals: what a hard “no” and a real “yes” feel like
In a direct conversation, Oakley explains how quickly he senses fit or misfit and where it registers. He describes a “no” as closed, drained, and out of place, and a “yes” as open, expansive, and full of possibilities.
- •A ‘no’ feels uninterested, closed off, and physically constricted
- •A ‘yes’ feels open, comfortable, and easy to imagine yourself in
- •Signals can begin in the mind and then the body ‘agrees’ over time
- •Practice makes signals clearer and faster to read
The tour-guide metaphor becomes literal: one school separates parents and kids
Oakley recalls a tour where the university split parents and students into separate groups. They interpret this as a practical design that removes parental energy, forcing students to feel their own responses without seeking validation.
- •Parents often function as the decision ‘guide’ (approval/denial)
- •Separation prevents kids from checking reactions and conforming
- •A useful decision tool: imagine influential people on a different tour
- •Being alone with your experience helps you read your body honestly
Decisions start in the body: the science case (and why spreadsheets aren’t enough)
Mel introduces research (Antonio Damasio) to argue that decisions are made through bodily signals and emotions, with the brain interpreting after the fact. She uses everyday examples (ordering food, deciding to go out) to show we consult feelings constantly.
- •Damasio’s work: decision-making relies on somatic (body) markers
- •Your brain often rationalizes what your body already signaled
- •Even ‘logical’ choices (menus, plans) ultimately turn on ‘what do I feel like?’
- •Higher-self choices may require pushing through immediate discomfort
Amy’s ‘next big thing’: courage to declare a leap despite a loud room
Amy shares how she announced a bold goal in a business mastermind—to make a year’s revenue in a month—and was met with skepticism. One supporter (Richellie Wright) backed her, and Amy followed the pull of possibility anyway.
- •Bold decision triggers silence, doubt, and discouraging questions
- •External voices can quickly erode conviction and confidence
- •One ally can help you stay aligned with your future-self direction
- •Commitment invites opportunity; Amy later lands major work that proves it out
Your inner critics can be the loudest tour group: fear, stories, and wasted years
Mel reframes the issue: sometimes it’s not other people, it’s your own fear-based narratives. She describes how self-judgment and imagined social consequences kept her stuck, mirroring stories from her team about ignoring obvious misfit.
- •Many ‘outside opinions’ are projections you create in your head
- •Fear stories (“people will judge me”) keep you from changing course
- •Staying on the ‘pack tour’ can waste years or decades
- •Clarity requires slowing down enough to admit what isn’t working
Mel’s cautionary tale: drifting into law school and ignoring relentless ‘no’ signals
Mel recounts how post-college panic and not wanting to be left behind pushed her into a legal path she disliked. Her body protested (anxiety, panic attacks), yet she stayed because it felt hard to swim against the current.
- •Reactive decisions driven by panic, comparison, and belonging
- •Early work experience in a law firm felt miserable—but she followed the crowd
- •Strong physical signs (panic, dread) signaled misalignment
- •Group momentum can feel like a current that’s ‘impossible’ to fight—until you choose to
When the “NO” finally wins: breakdowns, boundaries, and solving for a new path
Mel explains that she didn’t find courage through inspiration—she hit a breaking point after having a baby and couldn’t return to the law firm. She emphasizes that you don’t need perfect clarity about the future; you can start with “not this,” then problem-solve forward.
- •Sometimes clarity arrives as an undeniable ‘anything but this’ moment
- •You don’t need a full roadmap—only the courage to stop what’s wrong
- •Constraints (money, bills) can focus you into actionable problem-solving
- •Mel networks into a new job quickly once she commits to leaving
Be your own tour guide: Jessie’s major pivot and choosing what her heart wanted
Jessie shares switching from pharmacy to broadcast journalism after realizing the path wasn’t hers. She describes feeling the pull in her heart, taking initiative to find internships, and becoming her own guide—reinforcing the episode’s core metaphor.
- •A mentor-like interruption (“Do you really want this?”) sparks honesty
- •Courage looks like trying something without guarantees or models
- •Heart-based certainty can precede a clear plan
- •Action creates alignment: internships and opportunities follow the pivot
Closing framework: stop saying ‘trust your gut’—practice courage, feeling, and daily quiet
Mel consolidates the takeaways into a usable decision-making method: name it as courage, drop into your body, and listen for contraction vs. expansion. She ends by encouraging daily time to get quiet—especially when decisions are big.
- •Reframe: it’s not ‘trust your gut,’ it’s ‘have courage to choose what’s right for me’
- •Yes signals expansion and possibility; no signals shrinking and constriction
- •You’ll often hear the ‘no’ louder first—honor it as guidance
- •Make space for quiet reflection regularly, not only in crises
Publisher timestamps
- 0:00Intro
- 4:04The moment of my junior year in high school that changed my future.
- 9:38I am not proud of this mother moment when I lost it.Read this chapter
- 17:56The question Oakley asked is what we all do when we give up our power.Read this chapter
- 19:22Here’s what a hard no “feels” like for Oakley.Read this chapter
- 22:27Do you feel a “yes” in your body like this too?Read this chapter
- 24:25What our brilliant tour guide did when he separated parents from students.Read this chapter
- 25:34When it comes to big decisions, step away and go on your own tour.Read this chapter
- 28:19Here’s what a “no” and a “yes” usually feels like in your body.Read this chapter
- 30:13You’re going to love Amy’s “next big thing” story and how she just knew.Read this chapter
- 34:06We all have an opportunity in our lives to use this powerful tool.
- 36:08Do you have the courage to do this?Read this chapter
- 43:34So what do you do when you hear the NO louder than the YES?Read this chapter
- 1:01:04Jessie literally followed her heart and became her own “tour guide.”Read this chapter
- 1:05:11Stop staying you don't “trust your gut” and start saying this instead.Read this chapter
- 1:06:49Take time to do this EVERY day, but especially when you have a big decision.
