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Hinge's Relationship Scientist Gives Dating Advice - Logan Ury

Logan Ury is the Director of Relationship Science at Hinge, a Harvard-trained behavioural scientist and an author. Modern dating is difficult. Thankfully Logan has access to all the data from Hinge and can conduct as many studies as she wants on trends and preferences from thousands of people in and out of relationships. Expect to learn why an intentional approach to dating seems like a turn-off but is a very smart strategy, why you should start looking to settle down after dating 30% of your partners, what the data tells us are the most important rules for constructing a successful dating profile, why chasing The Spark is a recipe for disaster, how to break up with someone, how to get over heartbreak and much more... Sponsors: Join the Modern Wisdom Community to connect with me & other listeners - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Get 20% discount on everything from Lucy at https://uk.lucy.co/ (UK) or https://lucy.co/ (US) (use code: MW20) Get 20% discount & free shipping on your Lawnmower 4.0 at https://www.manscaped.com/ (use code MODERNWISDOM) Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and Free Shipping from Athletic Greens at https://athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Buy How To Not Die Alone - https://amzn.to/3v0KY1J Check out Logan's website - https://www.loganury.com/ Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #dating #relationships #hinge - 00:00 Intro 00:30 Being Hinge’s Relationship Scientist 05:48 Impact of Surveillance on Dating 12:11 Boomers, Millennials & Gen Z 18:15 Intentional Dating 28:47 Making Better Dating Decisions 37:04 Personal Dating Tendencies 43:32 How to Succeed at Online Dating 51:17 Logan’s Issue with ‘The Spark’ 1:02:07 Knowing When to Break Up with Someone 1:11:54 Where to Find Logan - Join the Modern Wisdom Community on Locals - https://modernwisdom.locals.com/ Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Logan UryguestChris Williamsonhost
Apr 7, 20221h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:30

    Maximizers vs satisficers: why endless swiping ruins partner choice

    Logan opens with the idea that modern daters increasingly behave like “maximizers,” applying consumer-style research habits to romance. She argues this mindset fuels perpetual swiping and prevents investment in viable relationships.

    • Consumer research behavior doesn’t translate well to partner selection
    • Maximizers keep swiping to avoid committing
    • Choice overload makes it harder to feel satisfied
    • Dating requires deciding to invest, not endlessly comparing
  2. 0:30 – 3:49

    What Hinge’s Director of Relationship Science actually does

    Logan explains her role at Hinge: turning real-world dating problems into research questions, then translating findings back into advice and product insights. She shares how coaching clients and cultural observation feed hypotheses for studies.

    • Job blends coaching insights, cultural trends, and formal research
    • Example research topic: mental health and dating expectations
    • Findings are communicated outward as practical guidance
    • She collaborates with researchers and data scientists (not doing the coding herself)
  3. 3:49 – 4:19

    Mental health becomes a dating ‘must-have’

    The conversation highlights how the last few years increased anxiety and depression across the dating pool. Logan cites Hinge research showing therapy and mental-health prioritization can be seen as attractive rather than stigmatized.

    • Mental health struggles are widespread and affect dating norms
    • Therapy is increasingly treated as a positive signal
    • Stigma is shifting toward ‘must-have’ expectations
    • Dating conversations now include mental health earlier
  4. 4:19 – 6:13

    Gen Z crowdsourcing dating: screenshots, group chats, and outsourced decisions

    Logan describes how Gen Z turns dating into a team sport by sharing profiles and texts for feedback in real time. She warns that while advice can help with wording, it can also disconnect people from their own feelings and agency.

    • Dating is increasingly “crowdsourced” via group chats
    • Screenshots make every interaction shareable and discussable
    • Friends should support goals, not define them
    • Self-trust and internal signals can’t be outsourced
  5. 6:13 – 9:57

    Surveillance culture changes flirting and in-person risk-taking

    Chris and Logan explore how ubiquitous cameras and social platforms create a sense of always being watched. They connect this to less spontaneous social behavior and greater cognitive load from constantly self-monitoring.

    • Phones create “perpetual surveillance” in social life
    • Fear of being recorded reduces spontaneity and experimentation
    • Self-monitoring is cognitively exhausting
    • Dating apps and social media reshape college and nightlife dynamics
  6. 9:57 – 18:20

    Boomers, millennials, Gen Z: shifting norms around identity, relationships, and life goals

    They zoom out to generational change: fluidity in identity, openness to non-monogamy, and different attitudes toward marriage and kids. Despite new trends, Logan argues the underlying human desire to love and be loved remains stable.

    • Gen Z norms include more fluidity in gender/sexuality and relationship structures
    • Cultural forces (e.g., climate anxiety) shape family and commitment choices
    • Older generations feel ‘out of touch’ as norms accelerate
    • Core emotional needs for love persist across generations
  7. 18:20 – 24:31

    Intentional dating vs the ‘romance black box’—why analysis isn’t unromantic

    Logan defends an intentional approach to dating, arguing people optimize health, money, and careers but resist doing the same for love. She frames modern dating as historically new, making skill-building and strategy necessary rather than cynical.

    • Dating skills are learned; we’re not “born knowing how to date”
    • Modern mate choice and dating apps are historically recent
    • Applying behavioral/relationship science improves outcomes
    • The ‘ick factor’ is cultural, not logical
  8. 24:31 – 28:47

    Redefining romance: long-term trust, teamwork, and showing up in crises

    Logan contrasts pop-culture courtship with her definition of romance: deep partnership over time. She shares her husband’s cancer diagnosis and treatment to illustrate commitment, care, and durability as the real romantic ideal.

    • Courtship gestures aren’t the same as enduring romance
    • Real romance is friendship, teamwork, and trust over years
    • Commitment is tested in hardship, not on curated dates
    • Long-term compatibility beats short-term excitement
  9. 28:47 – 31:16

    How to make better dating decisions: audit patterns and prioritize what matters

    Logan offers a practical framework: review relationship history to identify patterns, then refocus selection criteria on traits that predict relationship health. She argues people overweight looks, money, and shared hobbies while underweighting kindness and emotional stability.

    • Do a ‘relationship audit’ to spot repeated patterns
    • Looks and money matter less over time than people assume
    • Key predictors: kindness, loyalty, emotional stability, ability to fight well
    • Best metric: what side of you the partner brings out
  10. 31:16 – 33:49

    Hypergamy, height filters, and ‘date the least attractive person you’re attracted to’

    Chris raises dating-market asymmetries and high standards; Logan responds with concrete advice: drop or relax height filters and refocus on relationship-relevant qualities. She distinguishes this from “settling,” emphasizing intentional tradeoffs.

    • Height filters act like bouncers, shrinking viable options dramatically
    • Height doesn’t predict long-term relationship success
    • Challenge status-marker optimization in partner choice
    • Not “settling”: prioritize what matters and ignore distractions
  11. 33:49 – 37:04

    Maximizing vs satisficing in love: the Paradox of Choice applied to dating

    Logan explains Barry Schwartz’s maximizer/satisficer distinction and how maximizers stay uncertain even after choosing. In dating, maximizing becomes perpetual swiping and “Frankenstein partner” fantasies instead of building a relationship with a real person.

    • Maximizers seek the ‘perfect’ option and second-guess outcomes
    • Satisficers set a high bar and commit once it’s met
    • Dating apps intensify maximizing through infinite options
    • Long-term success comes from investing, not optimizing endlessly
  12. 37:04 – 43:32

    Three dating tendencies: romanticizer, maximizer, hesitater (and how to fix each)

    Logan presents her core framework: romanticizers idealize the relationship, maximizers idealize the partner, and hesitaters idealize their future “ready” self. She gives targeted interventions, from dropping soulmate myths to creating action deadlines.

    • Romanticizer: expects effortless soulmate love; reframe what’s romantic
    • Maximizer: seeks perfect partner; practice satisficing and building
    • Hesitater: waits to be ‘ready’; start dating to learn by doing
    • Attachment styles can overlap with these tendencies
  13. 43:32 – 51:17

    How to succeed at online dating: profile storytelling, photo strategy, and better messaging

    Logan gives tactical guidance for Hinge and online dating: define the story you want your profile to tell, use varied high-quality photos, and avoid low-performing clichés. She also covers filter strategy, matching mindset, and how asking questions increases likability.

    • Profiles should communicate 3 core traits via prompts and photos
    • Photo best practices: clear face, full-body, activity, social proof—avoid confusion
    • Avoid: excessive selfies, gym mirror shots, smoking, overused prompt clichés
    • Don’t swipe like ‘would I marry them?’—swipe like ‘would I talk to them?’
    • Ask more questions; being interested beats being interesting
  14. 51:17 – 1:02:08

    Logan’s issue with ‘the spark’: why slow burns beat fireworks

    Logan argues daters over-optimize for instant chemistry, despite evidence that love at first sight is rare and attraction can grow. She warns the spark may reflect charisma or narcissistic traits rather than true compatibility, and advocates giving “slow burn” connections time.

    • Spark is real but overvalued as a decision rule
    • Attraction can increase via the mere exposure effect
    • Sparky people can spark everyone; it’s not proof of unique fit
    • Spark doesn’t predict long-term relationship success
    • Try the ‘slow burn’—give promising matches a second date
  15. 1:02:08 – 1:12:53

    Knowing when to break up: hitchers vs ditchers, the wardrobe test, and healing heartbreak

    Logan shares her breakup decision tools: identify whether you stay too long (hitcher) or leave too quickly (ditcher), evaluate communication and context, then use emotion-accessing prompts like the wardrobe test. She outlines a compassionate breakup plan and evidence-based recovery methods including ‘rediscover yourself’ activities and meaning-making.

    • Hitcher vs ditcher: recognize your default relationship bias
    • Assess: have you communicated needs and shown up as your best self?
    • Wardrobe test helps access honest emotional truth beyond pro/con lists
    • Breakup execution: deadlines, clear messaging, no confusing after-sex/check-ins
    • Heartbreak recovery: rediscover-yourself activities, journaling negatives, create meaning

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