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The Female Orgasm, CrossFit & Vasectomies - Zack Telander | Modern Wisdom Podcast 384

Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to talk about the world's most pressing issues like whether men should be forced to get vasectomies at age 40, if Jon Jones can ever find redemption, why New Zealand's football team name is problematic, why the female orgasm is so elusive, how Zack got involved in internet beef with a big Texan man, whether CrossFit has rampant steroid use and much more... Sponsors: Get 20% discount on Reebok’s entire range including the amazing Nano X1 at https://geni.us/modernwisdom (use code MW20) Reclaim your fitness and book a Free Consultation Call with ActiveLifeRX at http://bit.ly/rxwisdom Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Zack's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94_fvLx7abZgs9LIkM7jxw Get Zack's Program for $1 - https://www.patreon.com/zacktelander Follow Zack on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/coach_zt Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #dating #crossfit #politics - 00:00 Intro 00:41 Chris Rabb’s Vasectomy Bill 06:00 Can Jon Jones Redeem Himself? 21:26 New Zealand All-Whites 29:00 Mark Rippetoe’s Beef with Zack 36:24 Intricacies of Female Orgasms 51:03 Is CrossFit a Legitimate Sport? 1:07:41 Facebook’s Whistleblower 1:15:50 Where to Find Zack - To support me on Patreon (thank you): http://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Zack TelanderguestChris Williamsonhost
Oct 13, 20211h 16mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Female Pleasure, Moral Redemption, and Illicit Edges in Modern Sport

  1. Chris Williamson and Zack Telander range across controversial cultural and sports topics, from satirical vasectomy bills and Facebook whistleblowers to Jon Jones’ violence, CrossFit doping, and women’s orgasms.
  2. They debate the effectiveness and cost of political trolling-as-satire, and use Jon Jones’ repeated misconduct to question whether true redemption is possible and how many chances someone deserves.
  3. The conversation then examines performance-enhancing drugs and image manipulation in CrossFit, arguing that the sport’s business incentives conflict with genuine anti‑doping efforts.
  4. They close by discussing research on female orgasm, the role of intimacy, cognitive distractions, porn-driven expectations, and why women tend to experience more pleasure and orgasms in relationships than in casual hookups.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Satire in politics can spark conversation but may waste real resources.

The satirical vasectomy bill succeeds in getting attention and highlighting double standards in reproductive laws, but the hosts argue it’s still a misuse of legislative time and taxpayer money and doesn’t practically improve the original abortion issue.

Repeated harmful actions reshape how we judge character and redemption.

Using Jon Jones as an example, they argue that at some point repeated offenses stop looking like ‘mistakes’ and start looking like core traits, making forgiveness, trust, and public redemption exponentially harder to justify.

Business incentives often clash with genuine anti-doping efforts in sport.

In CrossFit, they claim the governing body has every financial reason not to aggressively test or expose star athletes, since real testing (e.g., USADA-level) risks losing marquee names and damaging the brand’s ‘natural’ image.

Recovery-focused sports are highly susceptible to performance-enhancing drugs.

Because CrossFit and similar endurance-capacity sports reward volume and fast recovery, the hosts argue anabolics and peptides deliver enormous competitive advantages, making widespread under‑the‑radar use highly plausible.

Women tend to orgasm more in relationships than in casual hookups.

Citing research, they note that orgasm rates climb sharply with partner familiarity and relationship commitment, likely due to better communication, more clitoral-focused practices, and greater emotional safety and intimacy.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

He’s rotten at his core, and he will continue to fuck up.

Daniel Cormier (quoted by Zack Telander)

If you’re not going to be a good athlete, what you can be is a good ambassador or a good role model… Jon Jones has fucked both of those things.

Chris Williamson

Cleaning 280 as a female with what appears to be single-digit body fat? Sorry, that’s not how natural female physiology works.

Zack Telander (quoting his friend Ian Daniel’s deleted comment)

Too much of fitness makes money off using their elites to mislead people into what kinds of results are realistic through natural dieting and training.

Zack Telander (again quoting Ian Daniel)

The biggest restriction to girls coming during sex… is their own mind.

Chris Williamson

Satirical vasectomy legislation and the limits of political trollingJon Jones’ repeated scandals, character judgment, and the nature of redemptionSeparating athletic greatness from personal morality (the GOAT question)Doping, recovery, and business incentives in elite CrossFit and other sportsThe impact of porn, expectations, and mental pressure on sexual performanceFemale orgasm research: hookup vs relationship sex and the clitoral ‘second-class’ mythSocial media harms, Facebook whistleblowing, and public awareness vs corporate intent

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