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The Female Orgasm, CrossFit & Vasectomies - Zack Telander | Modern Wisdom Podcast 384

Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. ZT joins me to talk about the world's most pressing issues like whether men should be forced to get vasectomies at age 40, if Jon Jones can ever find redemption, why New Zealand's football team name is problematic, why the female orgasm is so elusive, how Zack got involved in internet beef with a big Texan man, whether CrossFit has rampant steroid use and much more... Sponsors: Get 20% discount on Reebok’s entire range including the amazing Nano X1 at https://geni.us/modernwisdom (use code MW20) Reclaim your fitness and book a Free Consultation Call with ActiveLifeRX at http://bit.ly/rxwisdom Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Zack's YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94_fvLx7abZgs9LIkM7jxw Get Zack's Program for $1 - https://www.patreon.com/zacktelander Follow Zack on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/coach_zt Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #dating #crossfit #politics - 00:00 Intro 00:41 Chris Rabb’s Vasectomy Bill 06:00 Can Jon Jones Redeem Himself? 21:26 New Zealand All-Whites 29:00 Mark Rippetoe’s Beef with Zack 36:24 Intricacies of Female Orgasms 51:03 Is CrossFit a Legitimate Sport? 1:07:41 Facebook’s Whistleblower 1:15:50 Where to Find Zack - To support me on Patreon (thank you): http://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom Listen to all episodes on audio: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Zack TelanderguestChris Williamsonhost
Oct 14, 20211h 16mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:39

    Performance anxiety in sex: why focusing makes it harder

    The episode opens mid-conversation with an analogy between male erectile anxiety and female orgasm difficulty. They frame both as a self-fulfilling loop where pressure, self-monitoring, and distraction block arousal.

    • Overthinking erection/orgasm makes it less likely to happen
    • Self-checking thoughts (“Am I doing it right?”) interrupt arousal
    • Parallels between male and female performance pressure
    • Sets the tone for later deep dive on female orgasm research
  2. 0:39 – 5:59

    Satirical vasectomy bill: effective activism or wasted governance?

    Chris introduces a Pennsylvania proposal requiring men to get vasectomies by 40 or after three children—explicitly framed as satire responding to abortion restrictions. They debate whether extreme satire productively sparks conversation or simply wastes political time and taxpayer money.

    • Bill positioned as satirical commentary on reproductive rights
    • Debate on satire’s real-world efficacy vs. political theater
    • Critique: counter-restricting bodies isn’t equivalent to reducing restrictions
    • Existing responsibilities for men (child support) already address part of the issue
  3. 5:59 – 21:12

    Jon Jones domestic violence: leverage, accountability, and redemption

    Zack recounts Jon Jones’ latest arrest and broader pattern of misconduct, using a Daniel Cormier clip to highlight “history repeating.” They explore what redemption would realistically require, whether the UFC/world should move on, and how morality intersects with GOAT debates.

    • Incident recap: Vegas, altercation, police involvement prompted by daughter
    • Cormier clip frames Jones as repeating a core pattern
    • Redemption discussion: penance, time, identity change, consequences
    • UFC leverage: sport moves fast and may no longer need him
    • Separating art from artist: can someone be GOAT while behaving badly?
  4. 21:12 – 26:42

    New Zealand ‘All Whites’ naming controversy and the logic of inclusivity

    They discuss debate around renaming New Zealand’s men’s football team ‘All Whites’ due to perceived racial connotations, especially alongside ‘All Blacks,’ ‘Black Caps,’ and ‘Tall Blacks.’ The conversation centers on consistency, “punching up vs. down,” and whether sport team branding should carry racial implications at all.

    • ‘All Whites’ singled out despite multiple color-based NZ team names
    • Comparison to US team rebrands (Redskins, Indians, Bullets/Wizards)
    • Question of who is actually offended and how to measure harm
    • Argument: if one is problematic, consistency might require changing all
    • Concern: importing race dynamics into sport branding debates
  5. 26:42 – 29:11

    NFTs in plain English: digital ownership vs. speculation

    Both admit limited expertise but unpack NFTs as verifiable digital ownership using blockchain and smart contracts. They quickly pivot to the motivational question: is enthusiasm driven by innovation or by profit, echoing earlier debates about crypto hype.

    • NFTs as scarce, ownable digital items (often art) via blockchain
    • Difference between copying an image and owning the token/license
    • Digital artists’ monetization potential
    • Skepticism: tech idealism vs. “number go up” incentives
  6. 29:11 – 36:28

    Mark Rippetoe vs. Zack: weightlifting technique, ego, and internet ‘beef’

    Zack explains a multi-round online clash with strength coach Mark Rippetoe over Olympic weightlifting claims, especially comments minimizing technique and critiquing elite coaching. The dispute escalates through response videos and culminates with mainstream coverage—without naming Zack—because of ‘clout’ concerns.

    • Origin: Rippetoe comments dismissing weightlifting coaching/technique
    • Flashpoint: Lasha Talakhadze’s record snatch and ‘technique doesn’t matter’ claim
    • Rippetoe’s rebuttal: insults, appeal to book sales/authority, attacking viewers
    • Men’s Health covers the feud but avoids using Zack’s name
    • Zack chooses to let the backlash in comments speak for itself
  7. 36:28 – 39:54

    Why women orgasm more in relationships: practice, communication, and comfort

    Chris cites a study on orgasm frequency in hookups vs. relationships, showing a steep increase with partner familiarity and commitment. Zack interprets the gap as a product of trust, reduced ‘masking,’ and better sexual communication over time.

    • Orgasm rates rise with repeated partners and relationship duration
    • Partner-specific experience and commitment predict enjoyment
    • Early-stage sex involves ‘hiding cards’ and weaker communication
    • Long-term comfort enables explicit instruction and experimentation
  8. 39:54 – 44:24

    Clitoral vs. vaginal orgasms: myths, ‘second-class’ beliefs, and the mind’s role

    They dig into research on stimulation types, orgasm consistency, and the surprising stigma some women feel about clitoral stimulation. The discussion emphasizes cognitive distraction, sexual myths (often porn-shaped), and performance pressure as major blockers to orgasm—mirroring male erectile anxiety.

    • Direct clitoral stimulation increases orgasm consistency and quality
    • Many women still prefer ‘purely vaginal’ orgasms despite no biological difference
    • Psychological strain and distraction reduce orgasm frequency
    • Porn may reinforce myths about how women ‘should’ orgasm
    • Analogy: over-focusing on outcome blocks arousal for both sexes
  9. 44:24 – 48:58

    Masturbation, porn, and expectations: how sexual scripts get written

    Zack wonders how masturbation habits affect partnered sex for women, drawing parallels to well-discussed porn impacts on male arousal and expectations. They also talk about how these topics emerge in dating—ideally by following the other person’s comfort level rather than forcing intimacy.

    • Porn/masturbation can shape arousal patterns and expectations (especially for men)
    • Question raised: female side of the same dynamic
    • Talking about sex evolves from relationship history and trust-building
    • Avoiding coercive awkwardness by letting the other person lead the depth
  10. 48:58 – 50:53

    Drugs for ‘letting go’: oxytocin talk, ketamine jokes, and presence in sex

    They riff on a Rogan-adjacent claim about drug combinations that help people ‘get out of their head’ sexually, including mentions of ketamine and oxytocin. The bit stays mostly comedic while reinforcing the underlying theme: presence matters, but there’s a limit to chemically checking out.

    • Idea: chemicals to reduce mental inhibition and increase presence
    • Skepticism about practicality and legality
    • Humor about dissociation and ‘astral plane’ sex
    • Returns to the core issue: too much cognition disrupts sex
  11. 50:53 – 1:07:41

    Is CrossFit a legitimate sport if doping is endemic?

    Using a CrossFit Games post featuring athlete Vicki Caruso, Zack argues elite CrossFit likely involves widespread PED use—especially due to recovery demands—and criticizes the brand’s incentives to downplay it. He cites a detailed comment by Ian ‘the Rhino’ (a former Games competitor) that allegedly got deleted after gaining major traction.

    • Claim: single-digit leanness + huge lifts suggests unnatural physiology at elite level
    • Deleted high-engagement comment alleges peptides/fast-clearing steroids are rampant
    • CrossFit’s conflict of interest: business incentives vs. sporting legitimacy
    • Recovery-heavy, ‘capacity’ focus makes PEDs especially advantageous
    • Comparison to UFC’s evolution with USADA and legitimacy pressures
  12. 1:07:41 – 1:15:47

    Facebook whistleblower and ‘water is wet’ revelations about social media harm

    They react to Facebook outages and Mark Zuckerberg’s wealth drop, then move to the whistleblower’s leaked documents and testimony. The central question becomes why the revelations matter when many people already suspected the harms—body image damage, addiction, and algorithmic amplification—were real.

    • Outage + stock drop contextualizes public scrutiny
    • Whistleblower claims: internal awareness of harms (body image, mental health, conflict)
    • Moderation imbalance: heavy focus on English content vs. global scale
    • Debate: is this genuinely new information or confirmation of the obvious?
    • Human desire for ‘cut-and-dry’ proof fuels outrage and action
  13. 1:15:47 – 1:16:32

    Wrap-up: where to find Zack Telander

    Chris closes by prompting Zack to share where listeners can follow his work and training content. Zack lists his YouTube, Patreon, and Instagram handles before they sign off.

    • YouTube channel name and spelling
    • Patreon for weightlifting instruction
    • Instagram handle for additional content
    • Quick closing banter and sign-off

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