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My First MillionHow Derek Went From $0 To +$100M With Supplements | More Plates More Dates
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Derek Reveals How YouTube Trust Built Supplement and Telemedicine Empires Without Funding
- Derek explains how he went from affiliate marketing products he already used to launching his own supplement, hair loss and telemedicine companies, funded without outside capital.
- He describes his division of labor with business partners, with Chris handling hands-on operations at Gorilla Mind in Idaho while Derek focuses on marketing, content, formulation and high-level hiring from Canada.
- Derek says that trust, a large influencer network and his role as formulator drive Gorilla Mind's success, and he expects both Gorilla Mind and Marek Health to become billion-dollar companies.
- The hosts and Derek discuss how pickup skills carry over to business, and Derek defends pursuing life goals in seasons rather than all at once.
- The conversation covers health topics, including Derek's criticism of Bryan Johnson's protocol and biological age clocks, plus TRT, peptides, GLP-1 drugs and food sourcing.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasMonetize what you already use and believe in
Derek says he started with affiliate links for products he personally used, then replaced them with his own higher-quality versions, avoiding the credibility loss of promoting things he doesn't believe in.
Pickup experience can transfer to business confidence
Derek says approaching attractive women made job interviews, presentations and meeting people far easier, though he adds it isn't always an emotionally healthy path.
Branding should match the product category
Derek argues edgy names suit pre-workouts and cognitive products, while trust-heavy products like multivitamins or medical services call for more credible branding.
A small audience can power a large business through partners
Sam notes the businesses came off roughly 1.9 million subscribers, and Derek says a network of influencers with a combined following in the tens of millions is a major driver, especially for Gorilla Mind.
Vertical control is tempting but uncertain
Derek is interested in owning a compounding pharmacy to control more of the supply chain, but says he isn't dead set on it and that focusing on the core business may be wiser.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesLike, for me, job interviews became infinitely easier after I learned how to walk up to attractive women. 'Cause if you can walk up to an attractive, you know, 10 out of 10 and not get nervous, going into a job interview is just like, is butter.
— Derek
I think people should be segregating things into seasons, personally.
— Derek
Trying to do everything at the same time, I feel like you'll just fail or do everything kind of half-ass, essentially. You will not get anything done with exceptional quality.
— Derek
It's organically integrating things that you already use and truly believe in. 'Cause if you just plug nonsense and you start to be a ad whore essentially, where you just take whatever comes your way when it comes to integrations, even products you don't believe in or care about, and you just become a robot mindlessly reading scripts for, you know, dollars, you kinda get- your credibility goes out the window and people don't listen to your product recommendations anymore.
— Derek
I think trust factor is everything nowadays especially 'cause there is so... E- e- especially in the health niche, it is so hard to know who to trust 'cause oftentimes the charlatans will get platformed too because they say outrageous things.
— Derek
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