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Jesse Pujji on Bootstrapping a +$1B Business + Selling To The Ultra Rich

Craft your own business ideas using this guide to spot trends before they explode 👉 https://clickhubspot.com/pju Episode 622: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk to Jesse Pujji ( https://x.com/jspujji ) about bootstrapping Ampush and the four levers of digital marketing. — Show Notes: (0:00) Unique insight + unfair advantage (3:05) How Jesse bootstrapped Ampush using GLG (14:00) Digital marketing in masterclass in 3 minutes (20:30) How to sell to the ultra rich (27:38) Red Ventures' Playbook (32:40) The Four Big Levers (41:00) Calling Zuck's cell (46:30) Noah Kagan's $100M mistake at facebook (58:45) What's the thing you can't not do? (1:01:00) Nelly performs at Jesse's birthday party — Links: • Gateway X - https://www.gateway.xyz/ • Aux Insights - https://www.auxinsights.com/ • Accordion - https://www.accordion.com/ • GrowthAssistant - https://growthassistant.com/ • GLG Insights - https://glginsights.com/ • Triple Whale - https://www.triplewhale.com/ • Ampush Lead Gen Overview - https://tinyurl.com/mw3f7cbk • Bootstrapped Giants Newsletter - https://tinyurl.com/46t82kk9 — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth • Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/ — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire global talent (like Shaan does) and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than their US equivalents. My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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Aug 26, 20241h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Jesse Pujji on Selling to the Ultra Rich and Bootstrapping

  1. Jesse describes Aux Insights, a year-old marketing diligence and value-creation consultancy for private equity firms that he says will do about $5 million this year after a tenth of the investment put into the failed Kahani.
  2. He explains that selling to hedge funds, private equity and similar buyers works because they are urgent, rational and not price sensitive, and he shows how he bootstrapped Ampush by selling $5,000 research reports through GLG, raising about $150,000.
  3. He lays out Red Ventures' four levers, which are traffic acquisition, onsite optimization, pricing to willingness to pay, and lean staffing, plus a culture built around numbers and EBITDA.
  4. He argues profitable founders should understand PE roll-ups and multiple arbitrage, using the Elite SEM example to show how combining businesses can raise the valuation multiple.
  5. The conversation turns to early Facebook stock math, the Zuckerberg phone call, and finding purpose through the question 'What's the thing you can't not do?', ending with how Jesse got Nelly to play his 40th birthday.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Start with demand, not a cool idea

Jesse says Kahani looked cool but solved no one's problem, while Growth Assistant and Aux drew buyers during discovery. At Shoptalk, the Growth Assistant salesperson got 25 meetings versus three for Kahani.

Sell to customers who can add a zero to your price

Hedge funds and private equity firms are urgent and not price sensitive because one decision can pay for the whole expense. Shaan calls this 'adding a zero' to what you charge.

Pair what you know with what the wealthy need

Jesse used his digital marketing expertise as a calling card, through GLG and his finance friends, to learn what rich buyers needed. He suggests figuring out what you know well, then who will pay the most for it.

Clients are often buying certainty and career protection

Shaan and Jesse note that a PE partner needs a convincing case for the committee, and a blowup could be career limiting. So Aux translates marketing levers into revenue and EBITDA terms, which McKinsey-style generalists and agencies don't do.

Red Ventures wins through a numbers-driven playbook

Jesse says its four levers are traffic acquisition, onsite optimization, pricing to each customer's willingness to pay, and lean staffing. Teams are organized around KPIs and meetings start with the bottom line.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

So I always joke that was Ampush's angels round. We raised $150,000 selling research reports to hedge fund people.

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So first figure that out, and then figure out who's willing to pay you the most money for what you know.

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These companies are really buying certainty, and it's, it's CYA, right?

— Shaan Puri

Rather than who is the most successful, who is the most rich, it's just fundamentally who's having the most fun.

— Shaan Puri

It's finding the thing that you really enjoy and then just going all in on it. Those are the people I think who are winning.

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Aux Insights private equity marketing diligenceSelling to price-insensitive wealthy buyersGLG expert network and research reportsRed Ventures' four levers and culturePE roll-ups and multiple arbitrageEarly Facebook stories and equity mathPurpose and finding what you can't not do

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