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My First MillionMartin Shkreli Reveals How He Made His First $100 Million (#445)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Martin Shkreli on Pharma Pricing, Prison, Hedge Funds and AI Doctors
- Shkreli says he never made money at hedge funds and instead earned his first wealth when his first drug company, Retrophin, went public in 2012, after he built it around a Bristol Myers asset he found by researching PubMed.
- He explains that he left the company after a boardroom fight he says led to a prosecution he was acquitted of, then founded Turing, and he argues that raising the price of Daraprim hurt no one's access because insurers cover it.
- Hosts Sam Parr and Shaan Puri push back that his smug public persona hurt him, while Shkreli says he deliberately embraced the villain role and values staying true to his own personality over corporate blandness.
- Shkreli reveals DrGupta.ai, a free-to-start AI physician built on GPT techniques, and predicts that AI will cut healthcare costs and eventually eliminate the need for medical doctors.
- He discusses his current financial situation, including a $60 million FTC judgment he is appealing, his belief that he could rebuild wealth, and his long-running ban from Twitter.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasBeing a good investor is different from running a fund.
Shkreli says he could value securities well but lacked trading discipline and the desire to manage a fund business, and he never took fees or made real money in hedge funds.
Deep research can uncover value that big players overlook.
He says he found a drug Bristol Myers abandoned, studied it on PubMed for other diseases, and turned a $2 million license into a company he says is now worth around $1.5 billion.
His defense of the price hike rests on insurers and total cost.
Shkreli argues Daraprim is a one-time course costing roughly $50,000, that insurers covered it, and that zero percent of patients lost access, while the hosts note this changes the emotional argument if true.
Managing psychology is the hardest part of trading.
He says his demon was doubling down on losing positions, and that investors will be wrong 35 to 50 percent of the time and must accept it and exit before damage is done.
He chose to embrace the villain role rather than conform.
After concluding media would always clip his worst 30 seconds, he leaned into being the bad guy, citing Vince McMahon and Bill Gates, though Sam Parr argues being more likable might have saved him years.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIf you sit there long enough and you have the passion, you can become a billionaire. It's just a matter of sitting there and sifting and sifting and sifting.
— Martin Shkreli
I know a lot of people, like, they make money to be comfortable. Like, I almost feel like I make money to be uncomfortable. Like, I want, I want the, the bigger challenges, the harder things to do.
— Martin Shkreli
If you spend the rest of your life trying to make somebody else happy and, and conforming to society, it's gonna be not a life worth living.
— Martin Shkreli
I just hate the, that the corporate world has gotten to that point where, you know, showing who you are or, or the kind of person you are or having an opinion of any kind can be held against you.
— Martin Shkreli
In my world, in my vision, 50 years from now, there's no such thing as a medical doctor. There's no such thing as a physician.
— Martin Shkreli
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