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The 5 Most Interesting Billionaires Alive...

Episode 585: Sam Parr and Shaan Puri talk about the 5 most outrageous, eccentric, and mysterious businessmen alive right now.

Shaan PurihostSam Parrhost
May 15, 202457mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Hosts Rank Five Eccentric Billionaires, From Telegram's Durov to Mysterious Nevo

  1. Shaan Puri presents Pavel Durov, who built VK, defied a Russian government data request, was forced out, and went on to build Telegram with a tiny team, no ads, and no sold equity.
  2. Sam Parr profiles Oleg Tinkov, a Russian entrepreneur who exported Western ideas through jeans, ravioli, a brewery, and a digital bank, then lost his fortune after criticizing the Ukraine war.
  3. Shaan covers Sean Parker, who he says made his fortune by recognizing winners like Facebook and Spotify, and Tom Anderson, who sold MySpace and walked away from business and later from photography.
  4. Sam closes with Aviv Nevo, a mysterious, hyper-connected investor whose wealth and background are unclear, and both hosts admit they are speculating from limited information.
  5. The hosts conclude that the list is really the most interesting billionaires most people have never heard of.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Durov chose principle over his company

Shaan says Durov refused to hand over user data, posted the government's request publicly, lost VK and had to flee Russia, yet said he would do it again.

Telegram runs lean and independent

According to Shaan, Telegram has about a billion users, roughly 30 employees, no ads, and no equity sold, with Durov turning down offers valuing the company at $30 billion and $40 billion.

Importing culture can be a business blueprint

Shaan notes that Tinkov's pattern of bringing Western products and ideas to Russia reflects a common model for big businesses: observe a culture and export its best parts to a place that lacks them.

Speaking out can cost a fortune

Sam says Tinkov's criticism of Putin and the war led to Tinkoff Bank being delisted and most of his wealth being lost, yet he remained defiant.

Sean Parker leveraged reputation, not just money

Shaan argues Parker made his fortune by spotting the next big founders, such as Zuckerberg and Daniel Ek, after Napster was sued out of existence, relying on his reputation rather than capital.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Tom had one thing those guys will never have. He had enough, and he was able to walk away

— Shaan Puri

Usually, you use your money to make money. He used his reputation to make money.

— Shaan Puri

No bloody government wants the citizens to be able to speak freely.

— Shaan Puri

I like the idea that San Francisco is like the nice quaint neighborhood in Russia.

— Shaan Puri

these are the most interesting billionaires you've never heard of

— Shaan Puri

Read the available transcript
Pavel Durov and TelegramOleg Tinkov and Tinkoff BankSean Parker's Napster, Facebook and SpotifyTom Anderson and walking away after MySpaceAviv Nevo's mysterious wealth and connectionsTeenage hackers turned foundersDefying governments and authority

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SPEAKERS

  • Shaan Puri

    host

    Entrepreneur and investor; co-host of the My First Million podcast.

  • Sam Parr

    host

    Entrepreneur and founder of The Hustle; co-host of the My First Million podcast.

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