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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Hunt Brothers Pizza, Geoguessr, Tokyo Date Saga, and My First Muscle Challenge
- Shaan Puri explains how Hunt Brothers Pizza built a business of roughly 9,000 gas-station pizza counters by shrinking the footprint, charging no royalties, and earning margin on ingredients.
- Sam Parr describes how Geoguessr went from $467,000 in revenue in 2019 to about $21 million in 2023 after adding a paywall during the pandemic.
- The hosts follow Nick Gray's viral Tokyo blind-date experiment, in which 400 women applied and his play-by-play tweets drew huge attention and media interest.
- Shaan shares life lessons from a billionaire mentor's remark that the house always has an edge and from Scott Galloway's 'keep your sails up' metaphor for staying ready for luck.
- The episode closes by announcing the My First Muscle challenge of 100 pushups, 100 squats and 100 burpees, with prizes and a May 12 deadline.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasChanging the form factor can create a category of one.
Shaan compares Hunt Brothers' 50-100 square foot pizza counters to 5-hour ENERGY's shot-sized product at the register, since both avoid direct competition by being a different kind of product.
Hunt Brothers earns by selling ingredients, not royalties.
Operators pay about $10,000 for equipment and then only buy ingredients. Shaan estimates roughly $5,000 a month per location across 9,000 locations, or over $500 million a year.
A hated paywall can be the move that makes a business.
Geoguessr put up a paywall after Google raised Maps API costs, and a Reddit user predicted it would be a flop. Revenue then grew to about $21 million in 2023, with $9 million paid out in dividends.
Pursuing a fun, unusual idea publicly can create luck.
Nick Gray posted one tweet and a Google Doc for a Tokyo date, drew 400 applicants, and gained millions of views and interest from Netflix and Amazon. Shaan says doing something adventurous opens the door for good things to happen.
A billionaire's simple observation can change a habit when advice from others did not.
Shaan's mom and friends had told him to stop gambling, but his mentor Michael Burch simply asking why he would play a game where the house has an edge made him put his chips away.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesthe thing you can control is having your sails up so that when the wind comes, you actually get a benefit from it.
— Shaan Puri
If you see, like, a 24-year-old on TikTok talking about this, like, you have the right idea. You just don't have the scars to prove it
— Shaan Puri
You could be rich with money. You could be rich with time. You could be rich with friends. Nick's life is rich with fun and adventure
— Shaan Puri
Like, you don't get cheered for to start the game, you get cheered when you win.
— Shaan Puri
It's insane that this guy has built this company, and it's just amazing that something so small and so silly has become such a serious business.
— Sam Parr
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Shaan Puri
hostCo-host of the My First Million podcast and entrepreneur/investor focused on business and internet ideas.
Sam Parr
hostCo-host of the My First Million podcast and entrepreneur known for building and investing in media and consumer businesses.
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