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The AI job disaster Congress refuses to fix

Former Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo says America is heading toward an AI jobs crisis. And she doesn't think Washington is ready.

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Jul 25, 202641mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Raimondo warns AI will disrupt jobs before America is ready

  1. Gina Raimondo says she is a “nine” out of ten worried about AI because the U.S. lacks the laws, standards, and institutional readiness to manage rapid change.
  2. She argues AI could deliver major societal benefits while also driving a disruptive spike in unemployment—especially for white-collar, clerical, entry-level, and customer-service roles—unless the transition is intentionally managed.
  3. She blames federal paralysis on a nonfunctioning Congress and says her nonprofit Raise Us will work through bipartisan governors to pilot new worker-transition policies that could later scale nationally.
  4. She contends retraining is necessary but insufficient, and calls for transition supports plus incentives that push companies toward redeployment rather than default layoffs, including the possibility of taxing corporate AI usage.
  5. She says data-center backlash reflects real harms when communities bear higher utility and water costs, and she supports allowing centers only under strict, enforceable conditions that prevent those burdens.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Raimondo is highly alarmed because the country isn’t institutionally ready for AI.

She argues the U.S. lacks updated laws, standards, and institutional capacity for a rapid AI transition, citing outdated unemployment insurance and insufficient supports for retraining, redeployment, and worker transitions.

She rates both AI’s promise and its risk as a “nine.”

She says AI’s upside is enormous (from accelerating research to making life easier), but the same speed of adoption could trigger concentrated job losses—especially for white-collar, clerical, entry-level, and customer-facing roles.

Her near-term plan routes around Washington by building state-level pilots.

She describes Congress as nonfunctional and says that reality pushes her strategy toward states, where governors can run experiments now and potentially create models that later become bipartisan federal policy.

She rejects “retraining-only” as an adequate response to AI-driven job churn.

She emphasizes that retraining alone won’t solve displacement, and calls for broader transition supports plus incentives (and disincentives) that affect whether firms redeploy workers versus choosing layoffs.

AI infrastructure can proceed, but only under enforceable community protections.

She supports data centers in principle but says community backlash is rational when costs (like electricity and water bills) rise; her view is that companies should be required to meet conditions such as providing their own energy and recycling water.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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I'd say, you know, nine, pretty high.

— Gina Raimondo

Because I don't think the country has the laws, the institutions, the... You know, we're not ready, right?

— Gina Raimondo

I don't actually think the technology's the problem. I think we have a politics problem and institutions problem, and we better get our act together fast, um, so we can meet the challenge.

— Gina Raimondo

Congress doesn't get shit done.

— Gina Raimondo

You cannot pull the rug out from under tens of millions of Americans quickly. And you just can't, and think that we're still gonna have an America that we wanna live in.

— Gina Raimondo

Read the available transcript
AI-driven job displacement and unemployment riskCongressional dysfunction and policy gridlockRaise Us and governor-led pilotsTransition supports beyond retraining (wage insurance, redeployment)Data centers, community backlash, and utility costsAI safety: standards, testing, penaltiesEducation, apprenticeships, and workforce preparation

SPEAKERS

  • Kara Swisher

    host

    Journalist and host of "On with Kara Swisher" (and co-host of "Pivot").

  • Gina Raimondo

    guest

    Former U.S. Secretary of Commerce and former Governor of Rhode Island.

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