The untold stories of Trump 2.0

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

July 13, 2026

Duration

56m

Channel

On with Kara Swisher

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

What’s actually happening in the White House? In their new book, “Regime Change,” New York Times journalists Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan take readers inside President Trump’s return to the White House in 2025 and the chaotic year that followed. It’s an incredibly revealing look at a president and an administration untethered from the historical constraints of the office and willing to take extraordinary risks in pursuit of absolute power. Maggie and Jonathan reveal what they learned about Elon Musk’s chaotic reign in the White House, why so many of the top tech CEOs were eager to get into the president’s good graces, and what Trump seems obsessed with in 2026. They also discuss the future of Trump's political movement and the challenges Democrats will face from this administration should they regain power in Congress. 00:00 Inside Trump's second White House 02:05 Reporting on Trump's inner circle 08:50 Trump, Silicon Valley, and Big Tech 19:15 How OpenAI won over Trump 23:30 Elon Musk, DOGE, and the White House 33:45 Trump's business empire and crypto 41:20 Can anyone succeed Trump? 49:20 Trump’s health, legacy, and what’s next Subscribe: https://goo.gl/FRleYo Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-with-kara-swisher/id1643307527 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/42ntT7XnfdbbYetUQu0vu5?si=ddbc94321e3948af FOLLOW US Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onwithkaraswisher/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@onwithkaraswisher?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kara-swisher-b7213 Threads: https://www.threads.com/@onwithkaraswisher Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/onwithkaraswisher.bsky.social

🎤 SPEAKERS

• Jonathan Swan

  guest

  Political journalist and reporter covering Trump, and co-author with Maggie Haberman.

• Kara Swisher

  host

  Journalist and host of the podcast "On with Kara Swisher."

• Maggie Haberman

  guest

  New York Times political reporter covering Donald Trump and co-author with Jonathan Swan.

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of On with Kara Swisher, featuring Jonathan Swan and Kara Swisher, The untold stories of Trump 2.0 explores Inside Trump 2.0: tech groveling, AI conversion, and monetized power Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan describe how they rebuilt their book to focus on the first 14 months of Trump’s second term, discarding anything they couldn’t verify due to a smaller, more guarded inner circle.

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