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#158-Brian Deer: A tale of scientific fraud—Andrew Wakefield & the belief that vaccines cause autism

Brian Deer is an award-winning investigative journalist best known for his coverage of the pharmaceutical industry. In this episode, he and Peter discuss the content of his book, The Doctor Who Fooled the World: Science, Deception, and the War on Vaccines, which exposes the complex and disturbing story behind the infamous 1998 Lancet paper by Andrew Wakefield linking the MMR vaccine and autism. Brian explains how doctors led by Wakefield, a lawyer, and an anti-vaccination parents’ group worked together on a study to validate their preconceived belief that the MMR vaccine caused autism. He reveals what happened behind the scenes as the study was carried out, explains problems in the lab, and discusses inconsistencies in the analysis. In the end, this is a story that serves as a cautionary tale about the consequences of science driven by an agenda rather than by a spirit of open inquiry. We discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro; 00:00:10 - How Andrew Wakefield’s flawed approach to scientific research led to the belief that vaccines cause autism; 00:12:35 - The importance of following the scientific method, and how Wakefield twisted the science to link measles virus to Crohn’s disease; 00:27:50 - The backstory behind Andrew Wakefield’s infamous 1998 Lancet paper linking the MMR vaccine and autism; 00:49:35 - The many flaws and disturbing aspects of Wakefield’s study: suffering children and failure to do strain-specific sequencing; 01:07:05 - The epicenter of fraud: Bogus PCR testing furthering the belief that measles virus from the MMR vaccine caused autism; 01:33:15 - Additional issues that contaminated the study results; 01:43:50 - Discovering the misrepresented medical records for the kids involved in the study leading to the retraction of the Lancet paper and Wakefield losing his license; 01:50:25 - The resurgence of the anti-vaccination movement, Brian’s motivation to write the book, and parting thoughts; Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/briandeer/ About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Subscribe for exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up for Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApple Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

Peter AttiahostBrian Deerguest
Apr 19, 20212h 4mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Journalist Brian Deer Details How Wakefield's Vaccine-Autism Claim Was Built on Fraud

  1. Brian Deer traces Wakefield's obsession from his belief that measles virus causes Crohn's disease, which he never tried to disprove, to the claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism.
  2. Deer says the 1998 Lancet case series was not a routine clinic sample but children drawn from a lawyer-and-campaigner-driven lawsuit effort, with Wakefield hired and funded through a legal aid grant before any child was examined.
  3. The episode explains PCR and how John O'Leary's lab reported measles virus in nearly all samples but never produced the strain-specific sequencing needed, with evidence of contamination and manually altered well results.
  4. Deer says the medical records of all 12 children contradicted the paper's reported timing of symptoms and diagnoses, leading to Wakefield losing his license and the paper's retraction after a 217-day hearing.
  5. Deer and Attia close by arguing the story is less about vaccines than about how science can be corrupted, and by noting the lasting harm to parents who wonder whether they hurt their children.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Wakefield tried to prove himself right rather than test his idea

Deer says science requires trying to refute your own hypothesis, whereas Wakefield leaned on words like 'consistent' and dismissed contrary PCR results by claiming it wasn't sensitive enough.

The vaccine-autism hypothesis grew out of litigation

According to Deer, a solicitor, a parent campaigner and Wakefield planned the research to support a lawsuit, with Wakefield's grant proposal predicting the findings before any child was investigated.

A paper is not the same as the study behind it

Deer stresses that he judged the work by going behind the Lancet paper to the children's histories, diagnoses and test results, which showed the paper's reports did not match the records.

The missing sequencing data is the core indictment

Deer says the stated goal was to show whether any virus came from nature, a lab, or the vaccine, yet no sequence data was ever produced from the children, even as families were told the vaccine virus had been found.

Lab evidence pointed to contamination or manipulation

A PCR expert hired by drug companies found formalin-fixed and frozen samples needed the same number of cycles, implying the virus entered after fixing, and found well results that appeared manually altered.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

in science, courage isn't about proving yourself right. It's in your efforts to prove yourself wrong. It's your efforts at a very early stage to try and refute your own hypothesis.

— Brian Deer

If he could do what he did, who else is doing what in the hospitals and laboratories that we may one day look to for our lives?

— Brian Deer

Doctors, I think, and perhaps professionals generally are very reluctant to come to the conclusion that somebody is dishonest as opposed to wrong.

— Brian Deer

There was not a single one of those 12 children whose cases were accurately reported in that paper in The Lancet in February 1998. Not one of them.

— Brian Deer

it's more a book about how science can go wrong and how science can be corrupted by bad people

— Peter Attia

Wakefield's measles-Crohn's hypothesisScientific method and falsificationLegal Aid funding and the lawsuit originsThe 1998 Lancet 12-child case seriesPCR and strain-specific sequencingO'Leary lab contamination and altered resultsMisrepresented medical records and retraction

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